Is there a genetic reason behind power?

The largest argument i can ever imagine for the case of genetics- is the case of is Johnny Owen as he was born with bones in his jaw so thick and skull so thin that his jaw penetrated his skull during a match. I think this is a very, very, very rare instance of genetics playing an active role in a fighter but nevertheless-- Rest in piece.

 

Of course there's a genetic reason for punching power. There's a genetic reason for literally every single thing your body does. What kinda question is this? And why is it being asked like once a week? Did Joe Rogan say something dumb recently? Is that what's happening?

 

1. What on earth is the difference between "genetics" and "natural ability"?

2. You guys do know that skill acquisition is genetic right? Your ability to learn physical skills is a genetic trait.

 

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If I find any others, I'll let you know, mate.

 

1. lol, you cant use them interchangeably so they are different. thats why different words exist. Genetics are born into us but you cannot possibly believe that some boxers 'learn better' cause it

2. research shows that theres not much a point in 'better learning genes' or whatever the hell youre on about. you can say that. but i think its wrong. at the end of the day Cus D Amato said as much that its someones character and will that are the driving force in a fighter.

i like this thread but i still think if we begin saying genetics have a grand weight on a fighter's success then we are lost lol. Tyson was a genetic freak, but when his will or character failed- he stopped succeeding. all his muscles and training were useless every time when his mental health deteriorated.

 

You've still not said what you think the difference between "genetics" and "natural ability" are... "You cannot possibly believe some boxers learn better because of [genetics]" is a flat earther level take. I'm not saying that to be mean, just to illustrate how off base your understanding of the human body is.

Also I have no idea what this "Better learning genes" stuff you're referring to is but no, research hasn't disproven the concept of heritability. That's like saying "research shows that there's not much a point in height genes or whatever". It's a fundamental biological principle that we've known for thousands of years. It reminds me of when Eddie Hall said he has bad powerlifting genetics. The strongest man in human history said he had bad strength genetics. I'm going to assume you're working of the misconceptions that most people (and Eddie Hall lol) are when it comes to genetics and go from there. Two important things to remember are that:

A. Having good genetics DOES NOT mean you're really good at something the first time you do it OR that you're really good at something without effort. Having good genetics means can mean that you have incredible POTENTIAL. Potential that you can reach with hard work. Just because they can be improved upon with hard work, and can deteriorate without hard work DOES NOT mean that they're not majorly influenced by a genetic baseline. "Genetics don't have a massive affect on your boxing ability because Mike Tyson got worse when he put in less effort". You see now why this point doesn't make sense?

B. A physical genetic trait isn't just something you can see. Physical genetics aren't just height, build, skin colour and physical appearance. Hand eye co-ordination is genetic, proprioception is genetic. Balance, dexterity, muscle memory are all genetic. What do you think nerves are? Nerves and neural pathways aren't magic. Considering genes affect literally everything in your body to below even a cellular level, including electrical impulses, why would nerves not be affected by genes? In other words, why would your ability to learn physical skills not be genetic?

You finding the notion of some people being better able to learn than others ridiculous, is itself ridiculous. You don't believe natural talent exists then when it comes to skills, is that what you're saying? You don't believe that with luck, training and opportunities being equal, some people are born with higher potential for skills in some areas than others? Or you do believe it, but think it's negligible?

 

i appreciate the thoroughness of your response and it gives me some things to think about