What number would you give these 15 fighters p4p all time?

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  1. Hotep Kemba

    Hotep Kemba Member Full Member

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    I've been looking at a lot of Top 100 lists recently but most of them are quite old at this point, done via vote or done in places that I don't consider to have knowledgeable posters. As such, i'm curious what number you'd give to these fighters all time. Doesn't have to be their exact position, just a general top 100, top 20, top 75 etc.

    A short explanation as to why you've given them their number and what could have been done to put them higher would be extra appreciated.

    Edit - Not an order ranking of these names relative to eachother, their rank individually on an all time list.

    Floyd Mayweather

    Manny Pacquiao

    Roy Jones Jr

    Thomas Hearns

    Marvin Hagler

    Oscar De La Hoya

    Evander Holyfield

    George Foreman

    Joe Frazier

    Rocky Marciano

    Larry Holmes

    Mike Tyson

    Lennox Lewis

    Wladmir Klitschko

    Vitali Klitschko
     
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    Hotep Kemba, Oct 17, 2023
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    15 - Vitali Klitschko
    14 - Wladimir Klitschko
    13 - Mike Tyson
    12 - George Foreman
    11 - Lennox Lewis
    10 - Larry Holmes
    09 - Joe Frazier
    08 - Oscar de La Hoya
    07 - Rocky Marciano
    06 - Evander Holyfield
    05 - Tommy Hearns
    04 - Marvin Hagler
    03 - Roy Jones
    02 - Manny Pacquiao
    01 - Floyd Mayweather

    Something like that probably.
     
    McGrain, Oct 17, 2023
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  3. Hotep Kemba

    Hotep Kemba Member Full Member

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    I'm surprised Roy Jones is so high and Wlad is so low.

    If you were to ranking these names not relative to eachother but their rank individually on an all time list, where would you place em? D'you think RJJ is top 20 all time for instance? D'you think Wlad even cracks the top 100?
     
    Hotep Kemba, Oct 17, 2023
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  4. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    1. Floyd Mayweather
    2. Manny Pacquaio
    3. Roy Jones
    4. Thomas Hearns
    5. Evander Holyfield
    6. Larry Holmes
    7. Marvin Hagler
    8, Lennox Lewis
    9. Wladimir Klitschko
    10. Oscar De La Hoya
    11. Rocky Marciano
    12. George Foreman
    13. Joe Fraizer
    14. Mike Tyson
    15. Vitali Klitschko
     
    DirtyDan, Oct 17, 2023
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  5. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have a fairly firm top 30 p4p all time list and a provisional top 50, the latter 20 places of which need more analysis before I'm happy with them. Of those fighters you list:

    1) Mayweather - #18
    2) Pacquiao - #19
    3) RJJ - #28
    4) Hagler - #32
    5) Hearns - #41

    None of the others are in my provisional top 50, though I could easily see Holyfield in there. The order of the others:

    6) Holyfield
    7/8) ODLH/Marciano is a pick em, imo (Rocky is my #5 at HW, just below Holmes & Lewis, but taking their respective sizes into account, I rank just higher from a p4p perspective).

    Then based on my Top 20 HW ordering

    9) Holmes - #3
    10) Lewis - #4
    11) Wlad - #7
    12) Tyson - #10
    13) Foreman - #11
    14) Frazier - #12
    15) Vitali - #20
     
    Greg Price99, Oct 17, 2023
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  6. Alexandrow Vids

    Alexandrow Vids Member Full Member

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    01 - Marvin Hagler
    02 - Larry Holmes
    03 - Thomas Hearns
    04 - Roy Jones Jr.
    05 - Evander Holyfield
    06 - George Foreman
    07 - Lennox Lewis
    08 - Floyd Mayweather
    09 - Manny Pacquiao
    10 - Rocky Marciano
    11 - Joe Frazier
    12 - Oscar de La Hoya
    13 - Wladimir Klitschko
    14 - Mike Tyson
    15 - Vitali Klitschko
     
    Alexandrow Vids, Oct 17, 2023
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  7. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mayweather is the greatest of his generation, clearly, so he is number 1 out of those.
    Pacquiao and Roy are the clear number 2 and 3.

    After that, I rate Hagler the highest.
    Hearns and DLH are in the same level IMO.

    All the HWs are below these guys...to me.
     
    Vic-JofreBRASIL, Oct 17, 2023
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  8. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1 Floyd Mayweather
    2 Manny Pacquiao
    3 Roy Jones Jr
    4 Marvin Hagler
    5 Thomas Hearns
    6 Oscar De La Hoya
    7 Evander Holyfield
    8 Larry Holmes
    9 Lennox Lewis
    10 Wladimir Klitschko
    11 George Foreman
    12 Mike Tyson
    13 Rocky Marciano
    14 Joe Frazier
    15 Vitali Klitschko
     
    Dynamicpuncher, Oct 17, 2023
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  9. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with you i had all the Heavyweights below the non Heavyweights aswell, i think their resume is far superior overall.
     
    Dynamicpuncher, Oct 17, 2023
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  10. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your list is very similar to mine but i don't rate Marciano anywhere near as high as you do.
     
    Dynamicpuncher, Oct 17, 2023
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  11. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    To the Op - you are asking where each of the 15 rate individually in the top 100 all time and not in order relative to each other, correct?
     
    Levook, Oct 17, 2023
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  12. Hotep Kemba

    Hotep Kemba Member Full Member

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    Correct

    I tried to edit both my title and the opening text to make that clearer but it was to no avail :lol:
     
    Hotep Kemba, Oct 17, 2023
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