First fight you ever scored after learning how to score fights?

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  1. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    For me it was Hagler-Duran.

    I was already a fanatic , watching every fight on TV, subscribing to Ring, Ring en Espanol, Guantes, KO Magazine, Boxing Illustrated, World Boxing and International Boxing (my family was upper mid class wealthy) , having all the posters of boxers published up in my room next to my Menudo band posters LOL and looking at the TV news or the morning papers every day for fight news,

    But I had no idea how fights were scored until El Nuevo Dia, the Puerto Rican newspaper, published instructions on how to score the bout the day of Hagler-Duran. People forget, but this fight was MAJOR in November of 1983, Hollywood-star major.

    I scored it 150-135 for Hagler, days later rewatching on HBO I had it 143-142, still for Hagler.

    I obviously got better at scoring as time went by. LOL On a side note Hagler-Duran is another fight where I think one nail here, another nail there, the fight could be scored one way or the other., like Leonard-Hagler, Trinidad-De La Hoya and Camacho-Rosario, for example.

    So what was the first fight you scored after learning how to score?
     
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  2. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Hahaha. I love that you scored it a shutout for Hagler and then by only one point.
     
  3. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Truth be told, I never used to score fights actively till I joined this forum and found the scorecard thread. I used to keep a running tally in my head in terms of rounds, rather than points, when I watched a fight.
     
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  4. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    hahahaha yep!!
     
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  5. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    The very first title bout i scored was Muhammad Ali vs George Chuvalo on March 29 1966, my Dad showed me how to score a bout, punches that connected, Aggressiveness and Ring Generalship, I scored it for Ali 72-65 under the Canadian scoring rules. I remembered that Jackie Silvers was the referee, Ali kept complaining to him about Chuvalo's low blows. Ali retained by unanimous 15 round decision.
     
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  6. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The second Carlos Monzon v Emile Griffith fight. 15 rounds on WW of sports with Cosell calling the action.
     
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  7. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Only in recent years, my first real scoring of a fight was The FOTC. Hard work. Very close fight, imo. :D

    When looking that much more closely at a fight, sometimes your perception can become far more skewed than when you’re standing back a bit and taking it all in, informally and more holistically.

    Microscopic, blinkered treatment might see you hugging only certain trees while missing others, and most importantly, see you missing the more telling lay of the forest, so to speak.

    Depending on the fight, stylistic mesh and opposing accents, sometimes it certainly isn’t easy to score some fights. There is also the contentious rating of punch vs punch value.

    Realistically, can you really pay due attention to both fighters at the same time (in real time)?

    It can be an easy pitfall to over focus on the work of one fighter at the expense of the other guy, inadvertently over sighting the latter’s work.

    It doesn’t mean there’s any bias involved, it can just be happenstance and both fighters might suffer on RBR basis when you’re only watching one of them at any given time.

    I would even say that it’s perhaps too much or almost too much for judges to score based on just the one, real time, viewing. We’ve all scored the same fight a few times - we can appreciate the variance in perception, even for the same scorer, from one viewing to another.

    Imagine if decisions were put back for 1 week to allow judges to score the same fight multiples time to come out with an averaging of their perceptions - for a more comprehensive analysis and conclusion?

    Lol, I don’t think that would go down too well.
     
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  8. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Jesus...that 2nd scorecard is waaaay to close. :D

    Duran winning would have been a travesty and Trinidad-De La Hoya was a major robbery. The other two, yes, although the best I could give Marv was a draw; Camacho-Rosario could have gone either way (I thought Rosario nicked it myself).
     
  9. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  10. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    One thing about scoring: I try to disconnect myself as much as I can from the commentary as far as that. It could persuade you one way or the other. I listen because I want to know if a punch connected or not, the intangibles such as strategy comments and so on, but I try as much as possible for tv comments to cloud my judgement, a task that depending on the commentator c an be hard. The aforementioned Howard Cossell, for example, was a commentator whose great voice was so commanding that sometimes it took attention from the fight and it became difficult not to see what he was seeing. I didnt like him personally but his voice could have that effect.

    Of course, there are cases, like in the also aforementioned Trinidad-De La Hoya when Harold Lederman had it at 114-114, when even if I was not distracted by commentary scoring-wise, I wind up more or less at the same place (I have it either 114-114 or most commonly, 115-113 De La Hoya).
     
  11. Jel

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    If I fighter kept coming forward, whether he was effective or not, Lederman would find a way to give him the round.
     
  12. Blofeld

    Blofeld Active Member Full Member

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    I can't remember but I am crap at scoring! I either get caught up in the fight and forget what happened at the beginning of the round or get distracted and have to finish a fight later and lose the flow of it. I also have a habit of almost giving every round to one fighter at first and then trying to balance it out as I feel my scoring is so lopsided!
     
  13. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I honestly don't remember. Might have been something like Spinks-Eddie Davis. What a nightmare that one is to score. Just brutal.