Could an Iron Mike-like HW excel in todays era of giants?

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  1. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    Usyk ???

    I honestly do not give usyk a single round against prime mike after i saw his performance taking body shots against dubois . Mike loves to give hard bodyshots in the ribs .
     
  2. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why not? Usyk is high up in the food chain and he is not particularly big. Mike Tyson would still be in the elite level. I think he could do it.
     
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    If Usyk can be a be top 5 heavyweights I see absolutely no reason why Tyson couldn't be. Hell Andy Ruiz is only two inches taller than Tyson whilst being an infinitely inferior athlete and he was top 10 for awhile.
     
  4. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Ruiz could chin Joshua then I am sure someone like Tyson would do something far worse and regardless of what people say, Ruiz beat a prime and confident Joshua.
     
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    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not favoring Usyk, just giving him a chance.

    But you're right, that hook to the body-uppercut combo can be brutal
     
  6. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    This.
     
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    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    If you mean the skillset is included then ABSO-F@CKING-LUTELY. He could beat any current HW put in front of him. Usyk would be one of the easiest for Mike stylistically. I don't get how anyone thinks he'd give Mike much problems. Fury would give him problems, but only because of his height, reach & size. He'd lean on Mike all night - as well as grapple & hug. It'd be worse than BoneHugger. Mike would win via Wide UD or DQ.
     
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  8. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There's only 2 heavyweights who could be considered elite right now and one of them is smaller than Tyson. He'd do just fine.
     
  9. SergioJ91

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    He'd be competitive in all the fights, yes...
     
  10. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Fight sports enthusiast Full Member

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    He'd have to be essentially Mike Tyson incarnate, the speed, muscle and power to go with the high level training.

    Also Mike fought in the mid 80s into the early 2000s, not the 1950s. Mike always fought at a height disadvantage and he did face quite a few "modern size" 6'4"+ fighters. Does anyone think AJ with all his height and size would really beat Tyson?
     
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  11. ad4m88

    ad4m88 Active Member Full Member

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    personally think mike tyson is a bit overated we never really got to see what he was truely capable of cos he went off the rails he only has 2-3 good wins if we are being honest about things
     
  12. Finkel

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    Here's one I made earlier.
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    I think Mike would have some success, sure. Dominate like he did in the late 80s? No
     
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    A warm welcome to 'Today's Heavyweight Are Bigger So They Must Be Better - volume #160'
     
  14. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He achieved all his success earlier in his career but he was still

    2x world champion
    5 time belt winner
    9 defences
    Belt winner in two decades
    20 years pro career
     
  15. lufcrazy

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    Yes. Moorer, Holyfield, Haye, Adamek and Usyk have proven that size isn't a deciding factor in the HW division.

    Tyson hits hard enough to knock out any man. The question isn't about someone being too big, but someone being too good to stop Tyson getting to them.
     
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