Michael Spinks vs Holyfields HW title defenses?

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  1. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Foreman
    Old Holmes
    Cooper
     
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  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I think he could manage those. Foreman and Cooper would be dangerous because of their punching ability but if Spinks is well prepared and fights smart he wins
     
  3. J.edwards_

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    I think Foreman would beat Michael Spinks to be honest.

    Holmes no but would be close over 12.

    If Cooper lands on Spinks like he did Holy in the third round he’d be knocked out, but him landing is no guarantee. Not sure if Spinks was punching harder than Holy at HW actually.
     
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  4. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Don't know about Foreman. Would be dangerous.

    He beat a 35 year old Holmes, he could handle a 43 year old Holmes.

    He outboxes Cooper
     
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  5. Dynamicpuncher

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    I think he'd beat all 3 TBH Foreman is the only real danger, but I can see Spinks outboxing and befuddling Old Foreman.
     
  6. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ok, how about quick tillis, pinklon thomas, michael dokes, alex stewart and ray mercer?

    The versions Holyfield fought vs Spinks
     
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  7. mr. magoo

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    I think Spinks beating the shot versions of Tillis and Thomas is a given. He also outboxes Mercer and Stewart with a few shaky moments. The 1989 Michael Dokes who fought a war with Holy might be a tough proposition. That version of Dokes was hungry, capable of winging some hard shots and still had fast hands.
     
  8. AwardedSteak863

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    I think he runs the table against all three. For anyone that thinks Foreman would beat him just realize that if Tommy Morrison could outbox Foreman than Spinks surely could. I also remember the HBO legendary nights episode when Spinks was asked about Moorer's strategy against Foreman and he said he couldn't get why Moorer would stand in front of him like he did. Make no mistake, if Spinks had a strength it was his in ring intelligence. He wouldn't stand still for George.
     
  9. Joeywill

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    Spinks didnt have lateral movement at Heavyweight. He was already wearing a brace on his leg I think
     
  10. Joeywill

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    I think Foreman knocks him out but he would beat old Holmes who he beat years earlier and probably beat Cooper
     
  11. AwardedSteak863

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    He did have knee problems at heavyweight but if he could outbox Larry Holmes he can outbox Foreman. A lot of folks will say Holmes was shop worn at 35 but he was still fighting a full ten years later and gave both prime Holyfield and Oliver McCall stiff challenges. Aside from Lateral movement, Spinks had excellent timing and knew how to take away an opponents jab like he did against Holmes. Everything Foreman did in his 40's was behind his jab. He was slow and Spinks certainly was not even with his bad knees.
     
  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Why didn't Spinks like standing still?
     
  13. AwardedSteak863

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    Because he didn't want to get splattered like Moorer did against Foreman. Moorer stood in front of Foreman and paid the price.
     
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  14. ikrasevic

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    Michael Spinks beats Holmes, because he beat him under better circumstances according to Holmes.
    Spinks defeats Cooper, on points.
    Foreman is a trick. At that age, he sets traps very well, and has the stamina to set them for 12 rounds. So 50:50. It would be a "chess match", so 50 percent Spinks would box like Morrison and 50 percent Spinks would box like Moorer.
     
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  15. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Spinks didn't hit hard enough to keep even that year Foreman off him forever. George catches up to him in 9.

    If you're talking 1985 Spinks against old Holmes...that's actually a lot more interesting to consider. I have to lean toward a majority decision for Spinks in a not-exactly-thrilling 10 or 12 rounder.