Tyson Luke Fury vs. Francis Zavier Ngannou & Fabio Wardley vs. David Adeleye RBR.

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  1. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Fury absolutely stunk the place out against the worst performance Wlad put in in years...

    It's been popular opinion here that Fury was just so good that Wlad couldn't help looking gunshy and ****... But I don't believe in gypsy magic and unfortunately Fury did absolutely nothing else on remotely the same level in his whole career to suggest that it wasn't a bit of a fluke.
     
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  2. uppakut

    uppakut Active Member Full Member

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    I don't think inactivity can be used as an excuse because he was in there with a complete novice who had not been in the ring/octagon since January 2022!! Fury just isn't as good as people think he is.
     
  3. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury kept emphasising that he’d had a 12 week camp and was in his best condition ever,far too heavy and as for being sloppy and not focussed,I’m not buying it one bit. I still think Fury beats Usyk solely for the size difference but if he turns up that heavy and just as sloppy Usyk will cruise it. Now Fury v Zhang that is a fight to see as he is well matched up to Furys size . I mean WTF it was like it was Furys first fight not Ngannous.
     
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  4. Redwood

    Redwood Active Member Full Member

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    The fix was in for this fight. Tyson Fury told us that by the way he fought the 10th round. He was super cautious, he threw very few punches, and he was not willing to engage with Ngannou at all. For him to be that certain he had the decision won, he would have had to be certain he was up by at least 6-3 rounds and 86-84 points (including the 3rd round knockdown) going into the 10th and final round. But there is no way any serious observer could have had Fury winning six of the first nine rounds of this fight. Fury probably bagged this decision the moment it was announced late September that he would again fight in Saudi Arabia, against Usyk. It was interesting the ESPN commentators did not cry robbery this time, bc in recent times they have been very vocal about crying robbery for far less controversial decisions.
     
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  5. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Not only the left cross. All the punches. And that vs a guy who had ZERO head movement. Gnandu's head was at the same position all the time, and fury spent the whole night missing by an inch.

    They do think that boxing fans are idiots and that they can scam us with a staged fight.

    Nothing in this fight was normal.
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I told you guys 1000 times that MMA>>Boxing

    MMA fighters>>>Boxers

    MMA fighters>>>Boxers at both MMA and Boxing

    The supposed TBE Floyd wasn't just totally outboxed by a 0-0-0 Sugar ''Money'' Mac for the first few rounds he was completely outslicked. Sugar ''Money'' Mac would've 100% won that fight if he didn't gas which is to be expected when you train on whiskey.

    That fight should've been a real eyeopener for you all.

    But the Triller Triad Combat Sports event should've woken you all right up. They pitted a bunch of MMA fighters vs pro boxers under wha was essentially boxing rules and the MMA fighters not only won the event the margin of victory would've been even wider had they not robbed two of the MMA fighters. In almost every bout the MMA fighters had better hands and they scored more KDs too lol
     
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  7. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Fury is the best HW that's ever lived but anyone can come in bad form especially at career end...and bad form is an understatement from that performance.
     
  8. Usyk is the best

    Usyk is the best Active Member Full Member

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    But. Wlad won 19 title fights in a row, held title for 9.5 yers and in those 19 fights he was never hurt, dropped and lost less than 10 rounds combined.

    To beat that Wlad even if it was his worst fight was quite an accomplishment and no one can deny this.
     
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  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I did. :nusenuse:
     
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  10. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At least you just made me laugh, miniq. (And, I am actually being serious.) I am so disenchanted with boxing at this moment, that I don't even have the heart to pile on you.)
     
  11. uppakut

    uppakut Active Member Full Member

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    You are an amazing troll. Let's look at this for what it is, Fury fought and lost to a 37 year old complete novice who has never boxed professionally and has also not been in a competitive fight since January 2022. It took a gift from the corrupt towel heads for him to keep his Undefeated record but only because they have money invested in his fight with Usyk. He has done nothing worthy of claiming all time great status
     
  12. GBoxingFeed

    GBoxingFeed Active Member Full Member

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    Ironically - I'm not actually of this opinion. As much as I respect the fighters of those eras, I don't believe that those guys would have an easy time with the modern fighters. I think this era is competitive with all eras, personally.

    I'm not trying to put Fury down - he's still H2H a huge challenge for any fighter, but he just lost to a novice - so clearly that raises questions. I personally believe it is because he has always relied primarily on his physicality - and also has good skills to boot. But when the physicality doesn't work - the skills aren't as big a part of the Fury equation as we once assumed. That's my personal opinion though!
     
  13. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    This is perfectly fair - my point is more that stinking out to an ugly win against the absolute worst of Wlad is definitely less of an accomplishment than the common narrative of late - the magical dominant performance against Wlad at his best who couldn't do a thing about it.

    And there's reasons the rematch never happened.

    And reasons Fury fought a fraud in Wilder and not the much more proven and difficult fighter in Joshua.

    And reasons why Fury took forever to agree to fight Usyk and could still wriggle out of it now without surprising anyone.
     
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  14. Diddy

    Diddy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury has to rematch him. And actually, ya know, train this time. Aka do some actual cardio and get behind the double jab and move. Not whatever the hell he just did. He looked like a corpse.
     
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  15. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Worse than the main event was the event itself. That whole event ****ing sucked. The build up, almost two hour **** concert, the crappy undercard, the ring entry that wanted me to commit suicide.
     
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