Tyson Luke Fury vs. Francis Zavier Ngannou

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Poll closed Oct 28, 2023.
  1. Fury on points

    13.3%
  2. Fury by stoppage

    68.9%
  3. Draw

    1.7%
  4. Ngannou on points

    3.3%
  5. Ngannou by stoppage

    12.8%
  1. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Fury was gassed because he wasn’t able to put his big gut on Francis and FN was making Fury back up and fight desperately.
     
  2. JesseT

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    Ngannous wide guard basically nullified Furys sloppy hook, pull the guard down for a right straight or a hook combo, he was able to counter it with his own punch. That also made Fury to overextend his hooks to get past the guard. Fury also realized that Ngannou has an iron chin and crazy power which made him tentative and not able to fully commit.

    He was also able to outmuscle Fury in the clinch, he pushed 280 pound man away with basically one arm, Francis is freaking crazy strong. Fury was not able to tire him out by leaning on him, he just got pushed away.

    What the hell has happened to Furys footwork btw? That was awful to see.
     
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  3. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    He was talking about Mercer Sylvia.
     
  4. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Funny , if Fury retired after Wilder 2 or even Whyte, people would have him in ATG heavyweight discussion.

    I have the feeling he's about the go the way of Roy Jones Jr and ruin his legacy by showing a lot of vulnerability soon.
     
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  5. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Name some of these great fighters?
     
  6. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    Never been the biggest believer in this Kronk style nonsense. Worked great in the 2nd Wilder fight but lots of straight lines. Predictable fients (Francis ignored almost all of Fury's fients). No jab at all is a death sentence no matter how you fight.

    Especially when Fury has never been a puncher. He is an attrition fighter. Hard to be an attrition fighter when you're outmuscled, shot elbows and fighting on empty.

    That's two fights now where Fury has failed to use his jab almost entirely. Chisora & Whyte plod right into Fury so they are almost non entities. Usyk isn;t going to plod into Fury.

    Fury is going to overextend that arm trying to jab Usyk, hurt himself then just try to maul Usyk into submission. Guaranteed.
     
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  7. Walcott

    Walcott Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sugar who?
     
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  8. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Difference with Jone's is tht Jones was well established as an ATG when he started showing his vulnerabilities. His style was, especially his defense, predicated on having great reflexes. Once the reflexes slowed, it was a wrap for him. But Roy's resume was much better than Fury's.
     
  9. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

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    Mercer Kimbo
     
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  10. uppakut

    uppakut Active Member Full Member

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    Ruin his legacy?
    What legacy? he's fought no-one.
    Compare his resume to a genuine ATG in Lewis and it like night and day, fury has done nothing, the only thing fighting on would do is remove the veil which he has covered over casual boxing fans eyes. He is a fraud
     
  11. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

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    Nah.

    He proved what coning in shape does vs the opposite.
     
  12. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    He underrated Ngannou who has the same skills of Wilder and he didnt managed to outbox him with the jab like the great champions can do when are in front of a dangerous fighter. Total disaster. Usyk will give him the coup of the grace. To me it would be better if he retires before facing Usyk who in a way or in the other will get undisputed.
     
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  13. Thom

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    Only by total casuals and deranged UK nationalists.

    Fury only has three title defenses and two quality names on his resume.

    Calling him an ATG is laughable.

    The guy hasn't fought anybody in this current crop of contenders and probably never will.

    All of the stuff about him being GOAT is garbage that came out of his mouth and that people took at face value with no evidence.

    What's really ridiculous are all the people who (rightly) criticized Wilder's competition for years, but then turned around acted like Fury comprehensively beating him was one of the greatest victories ever.

    I'm glad that we can finally have frank conversations about Fury's legacy, but very sad that it took him embarrassing himself against an MMA fighter for it to happen.
     
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  14. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was thrown off by Ngannou's length and refusal to bite on any feints.

    Also, his safety blanket of bullying his opponent in the clinch wasn't there because Ngannou is insanely strong and actually knows how to wrestle and punch from inside of the clinch.

    ...but we're supposed to believe that a guy who looked that lost the first time that he couldn't safely lean on an opponent to wear them out is one of the most skilled fighters of all time.

    Glad the mass hysteria finally got broken.
     
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  15. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Never seen a mass hysteria around Fury. Most of boxing fans knew he was already done with Wilder III. The bout with Ngannou has just confirmed that.