Tyson Luke Fury vs. Francis Zavier Ngannou

Smaller men who hung with hard punchers like Joe Louis and Sonny Liston and Buddy Baer could hypothetically take a punch from Ngannou

 

Bob Pastor got up when Louis landed flush on him. I expect him to get up if Ngannou landed on him

 

I thought it was said Fury had a 12 course meal. Maybe not, but it sure looks like he did.

 

To paraphrase Great White Hype, he thought he could beat his meat and Francis at the same time.

 

I can see him getting another mega fight or two.

 

"Whyte being scared of losing the Fury payday against Wallin"

It's not just that. He could have fought Wallin rather than Franklin in what would have been a bigger fight. After he saw Usyk school Joshua the first time he lost all confidence in beating Wallin.

"but the Breazeale part is a strange wording."

Wallin won 10 rounds against Breazeale and was never in any trouble, that's a schooling.

It's also funny that you mention "Robert Helenius" as a win which represents the depth of Joshua's record when Helenius was KO'd in 1 round by Wilder 10 months prior to Joshua labouring to a 7th round stoppage after getting busted up by Helenius.

I'd say Breazeale is in Joshua's top 10 wins ahead of the likes of Molina and Martin, neither of whom came to fight. If Breazeale is a nobody then the same applies for at least 19 of Joshua's 29 opponents. Breazeale's more dangerous than the likes of Franklin and Takam too. He's got size, heart and more power than those guys, had the guts to take the Wallin fight and got retired.

 

I also mentioned Molina and Martin (or I was about to when posting) while clarifying that the list generously included B/C level fighters, because you don't get that many notable names in many modern resumes.

The only mildly amusing thing is the sentence meant to be an accolade for Dominic, whereas he lost every round of his relatively short title shots, one of which included one round knockout. Say what you will about Robert, but he has had an eventful career at least, wins and losses both. Neither should be highly rated though.

Anyway, I agree with the crux of your argument—Wallin was being underrated (me included, particularly after the Sokołowski bout.) Hopefully he can get the Hrgovic fight.

 

He’s already ben verified by his coach that wbc will rank him top 10 according to what the ceo of wbc.

Valuev had less technical ability than francis. HW boxing favors big punchers with good chins. most hw in boxing have awful bodies too, just like in mma, these guys all walk around looking like couch potatoes. i can easily see francis winning a title.

Aj is already shot btw.

He looked awful in his last fight. going 7 rounds with a can that gave him a black eye and a bloody nose.

Aj who destroyed Wlad was a beast.
Aj post Ruiz is gun shy.

 

Final results of the "Where does Ngannou rank among Fury’s best opponents?" poll:

17 voted

0% had Ngannou over 2015 Wlad
11.8% had Ngannou over 2018-2021 Wilder
29.4% had Ngannou over 2019 Wallin
41.2% had Ngannou over 2013 Cunningham

64.7% had Ngannou over 2014 Chisora
82.4% had Ngannou over 2022 Whyte

 

Fury gets literally demolished by his own PR team, aka Talksports:

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And the other blatant Fury fanboy Spence Oliver says Fury was gifted, and Ngannou should have won:

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How the "mighty" have fallen.

 

Breazeale lost every round against Joshua but he still got to the 7th, showing a good chin and heart. He tried to win more than Takam and Franklin too for my money. Wallin schooling a top 10 Joshua win suggested that he'd be well up there on Joshua's resume, Whyte clearly thought the same even though many on the forums did not.

 

How does someone with zero cardio go 10 rounds?

 

Ngannou vs Makmudov

 

Physicals are always a good thing it has a lot more to do with HW being trash, not staying in shape and some other stuff.

HWs are lucky there arent more guys like Usyk or Ortiz.

 

I feel like you just got upset that I was positive about an MMA fighter and didn't consider my post.

Of course AJ would obliterate Ngannou lol. But you don't need to beat AJ to become a belt holder, nor would Ngannou necessarily need to fight someone meaningful. D'you think that current shithouse Fury is so bad that he'd constitute LESS of a challenge for Ngannou in a vacant title fight than the likes of a Charles Martin? Or the likes of a 40 year old Manuel Charr? I don't think so.

"Outside of his power has nothing else really".

Bro unfortunately you've just described 90% of the Heavyweight division, in addition to the other weaknesses you listed.

Most current heavyweights have several glaring weaknesses.

Most of them have slow feet.

Most of them have average hand speed, with some like Joyce having all time bad hand speed.

Most of them have bad defence.

Current Fury, current Joshua, Zhang and Wilder all have low punch output. Joshua landed 6 punches against Jermaine Franklin in one of the rounds ffs and only threw 28 a round vs Helenius.

There's not a single top 10 Heavyweight perhaps maybe Usyk that doesn't have AT LEAST one, let alone two of the weaknesses that you listed. Unlike a lot them however Ngannou has a monstrous chin, excellent power and most importantly room to improve.

Like I said d'you really not giving Ngannou a chance against Charles Martin caliber opponent?