Tyson Luke Fury vs. Francis Zavier Ngannou

Big Dave has lost the plot.

Um yeah, you know, the numbers are in, I can't say who gave me those numbers, but yeah, you know, ummm, yeah, those are the numbers.

 

I dont know what s the point in all of this?

To say most K-1 fighters would look bad in Boxing? Sure, no doubt about it.

But when you see the history of K-1, the greatest and most succesfull fighters were guys who can kick and punch, not just one of them. More or less Semmy Schilt and Ernesto Hoost were the two most succesfull. Yet Hoost lost to Sapp twice and Schilt lost to Hongman Choi (who wasnt even a kickboxer but Ssiereum-Wrester primary).

Hoost lost to Sapp
Sapp lost to Sefo
Sefo lost to Hoost 3 times in 3 fights
Schilt lost to Choi but defeated Sefo twice
Sefo defeated Choi
etc.

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Style makes fights.

 

"Idiot fury fans don't see it that way though, they make all the excuses for his behaviour, I remember when pac man was still active and you had his fans being called pac tards and Floyds fans being called *****s, I'm not sure what Canelo fanatics were called but my point is these fan's were atleast following fighters that mixed it with the best in there weight class and had legitimate claims to greatness. Fury's fans just accept anything he does, it's ridiculous

 

He had his chance to clean out his division and make a name for himself amongst this generation of fighters but it all started to go south after the Wlad fight. He ran from the rematch citing mental illness and what's even more ironic is he paints himself as some sort of bastion of mental health and of the voiceless yet look at what comes out his mouth! Can't stand the guy and the backpedaling and goal post moving during the Joshua and Usyk negotiations put me completely off him. I was actually glad when he beat Wlad but he hasn't been a good champion at all

 

Hahaha I like the part about riding off into the sunset with Fury's soul but as much as I don't like the man I think he might beat Usyk. If he's allowed to clinch and rabbit punch he might overwhelm him but the way Fury's been ducking maybe hes not confident.
The height difference didn't actually look like much when they were in the ring post Ngannou fight but when I saw the video of Usyk training and goading belly he did seem quite small. Having said that Cunningham dropped Fury so there's hope

 

No but it could make Usyk overconfident anyway.

That's not to say he won't prepare well; he's a consummate pro and will leave no stone unturned but it's often the case that fighters need to feel seriously threatened to perform at their absolute best. Usyk won't feel as threatened by Fury now.

Did Usyk feel seriously threatened by Briedis? I don't think so:

"Briedis-Perez case study:

Briedis won ugly (115-111) with a lot of grappling and went 12 rounds against a Takam and Jennings victim who had 2 minutes of ring time in the previous 32 months, most of which was taken up suffering a brutal 1st round KO against Povetkin.

Potential benefits of strategic underperformance: Usyk would have misleading film to study (especially as Perez was an experienced amateur southpaw), he would underestimate 7/2 underdog Briedis, losing a degree of focus/motivation and the judges would underestimate Briedis against Usyk, perhaps treating Briedis more generously on the scorecards as a result."

Did 1/8 favourite Usyk feel seriously threatened by 9 loss Chisora? I doubt it. That's his 3rd most competitive fight, after Briedis and Joshua 2.

He looked sharper in the first Joshua fight (which he won relatively easily) than he did in the 2nd, though I think this was at least partly due to tactical improvements from Joshua.

Whereas for Fury it's the complete opposite: if anything's going to give him a kick up the backside and provide focus and discipline for the next few months, it's going life and death with an 0-0 MMA fighter in front of practically every living boxing legend. Or maybe Fury will retire. But either way it's a fascinating situation right now.

 

What a stupid conspiracy theory. No surprise who it comes from.

Fury performed bad because he took his opponent lightly and trained half-assed. He didn't 'try' to look bad, he just looked bad.

 

K1 was awesome!! one thousand times better than mma. The only combat sport that I've liked apart from boxing.

 

What i can say is once again the boards are full of Fury fever, he usually dominates the boards around here & it's pandemonium just look around the obsession is real.

 

Usyk keeping it respectful as always.

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