Tyson Luke Fury vs. Francis Zavier Ngannou

When asked about if he was going to laugh at fury for being close to lose vs gnannou

"No, I'm a man, I don't behave like that. My children are watching me, my wife is watching me, many people are following me, I can't behave like a pig"

It is absolutely impossible not to be a fan of Ussyk.

 

Wait a minute,, you mean people PAID to watch that?

 

Just locked out at the minute mate I'm going back to it. Phone smashed just before my holiday won't let me log in.

 

That's 70k plus gormless idiots.

 

Good point. This fight and its luster (That it had) was really owed to Usyk. And the boxing fans. Tell you the truth, THAT Fury last Sat wouldn’t have seen the 8th round against Usyk. And if Fury did happen to make it the distance… there would be NO argument on who won. Instead of cringe singing, there would have been epic dancing by the winner afterwards. Lol

 

Icons is a Grove Matrix w**ker lol.


Also, he is very pro matchroom/aj.

 

Please forgive me again, but i wrote all of this in german, and i dont want to write it again in english, so i gonna use an online translator.

So please dont take much notice about grammar and writing errors.

As for Ngannou's power. I think a lot of people got it wrong (me too) and it's a bit of "propaganda". I'll give you a quote from someone here:

129 k franklins cant be change into peak force its more related to impulse so average force at contact time duration newton x seconds they create this bs units after multiple interview with many difrents masters diffrent type combat sports how they subscribe diffrenc punching characteristic that base on very stupid subjective imagination and feeling while physicist know from years multiple equation which very precise subscribe impact phenomenom so you dont need discovery wheel again

I have better simplier cheaper device anyway powerkuba beside franklins units also measured feet pounds per seconds units and this units have straight corelation with kilograms force.

Francis best shot was 51 k ftlbs sec what is 510 kilograms force or 1123 pounds of force.

Source: https://www.quora.com/Francis-Ngann...1-units-What-would-that-be-in-pounds-of-force

This units cant be directly extrapolated on some very specific peak force level ‍♂️ However in hees best attempt on powerkube when he score this 129,161 franklins units he also achieve 51 000 ft lbs/sec and this can be change on peak force its 510 kg force or 1124 pounds of force or 5003 newtons of force all three mean egzacly the same For comaprision eddie hall best shot was 360 kg force

Source: https://www.quora.com/How-many-kg-or-lb-is-129-161-units-Francis-Ngannou-s-strongest-punch

There we have it! This all looks like, I don't want to say "fraud", but as this gentleman Marcin Lewandowski writes, 510 kilograms force or 1123 pounds of force.

It's strange that you can't convert this Ngannou value, i.e. "129.161 units", 1-1 to kilograms or English pounds, like you used to do in "Fight Science".

In other words: It was probably intended that way from the start because no one could really check it.

If the values are correct, then I'll make you a list now (across all styles):

Number 5) Left hand of Wlad, around 400 kg = 882 lbs
Source:
https://www.bild.de/sport/mehr-sport/seine-faust-in-original-groesse-8737462.bild.html (German BILD paper)

Number 4) Right hand of Ngannou, 510 kg = 1123 pounds of force

Number 3) Right hand of Deontay Wilder, around 600 kg = 1323 lbs
Source:
Preview of the 2nd Fury fight. I think it was the American broadcast.
PS: There is also a source on Quora that says the right hand against Ortiz in the second fight was 897 kg =
1978 lbs, which would be harder as any punch from Wlad.

Number 2) Right hand of Wlad Klitschko, around 700 kg = 1543 lbs
Source:
https://www.bild.de/sport/mehr-sport/boxen/hier-schlagen-700-kilo-klitschko-ein-30180598.bild.html

Number 1) Right kick of Bren Foster, 1043 kg = 2300 lbs
Source:

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So if Wilder really can do 897 kg aka 1978 lbs (the source is not sure), he is the hardest puncher, and also punches harder than Wladi, even his punch is harder than the Muay Thai guy s kick in the Fight Science documentary who can do 816.

Either way, the 76 kg = 168 kg Taekwondoin Bren Foster is unmatched. I don't know of any martial artist / fighter etc. anywhere who has over a ton (1000 kg) of power.
Nobody can stand a ton against the stomach. I would bet even such tough guys like Chuvalo and McCall couldnt take such a shot to the stomach without being done.

Long story short:

If Ngannou's 510 kg is correct, he is not the hardest puncher ever recorded. But this shipment where this was made uses a unit of measurement that is difficult to convert into kg and lbs.

Maybe it's intentional so that people can't check so easily?

 

Interesting analysis and for sure it seemed the shots Fury took from Wilder in there fights were more powerful than the punch nganou knocked fury down with. Just to let you know the translation is perfectly adequate.

 

I think the punch Ngannou landed bounced off the shoulder first. Took some power out of it.

 

ngannous is more brute strength knockout power while wilders is more explosive....

 

There is no way to ever truly know unless you take the same athletes and have them punch the same machine on the same day in their prime. For wlad his power has probably gone down since he retired.

One thing we do know is Francis has good power. He didn't need to rotate his hips to drop Fury , his check hook looked like he got off a little shoulder and mostly arm. That is good power 9.5/10 or 10/10

He doesn't have the best hand speed, it's very Foreman-esq

But he has enough power to be relevant in any fight he's in. I think it's him and Wilder and then everyone else.

 

I like these games with a 0 to 10 or 0 to 100 scales.

But i would say in boxing history, only Shavers and Wilder deserve a 10. Most probably they were the two hardest single puncher s ever. Foreman, Wlad and a couple others are 9.5 or so.

Others like Tua, Tyson, Lewis etc. 9,
Vitali and Bowe like 8.5 or 8, etc..

Ngannou is difficult to rank. You must also see punching power and KO power isnt the same. I think if a guy like Nikolai Valuev punches with full power, his rough power would be very good, but his punches are too slow and the head snap isnt so much. His punches "move" people yes, but they dont KO them.

And in footwork, only Ali would reach a 10 among the heavyweights. Like only Chuvalo and McCall would reach a 10 in chin.

 

Next time John Fury drags a huge knife across his bare chest and belts out a battle scream drawing the attention of the predator. This opens up opportunities for Fury.

 

Just saw a brand new YouTube video. Someone claims Fury has just said he wants to rematch next instead of Usyk,

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I thought the Usyk fight was already signed and done, and is legally binding.

 

Fury will no way fight Usyk. He doesn't want to lose his precious WBC belt. He wants to fight Ngannou in a non-title match again, there's no risk and lots of money in it.