A better heart; Holyfield or Frazier?

I don't think you could pick one or the other ... others had huge hearts too like Holmes or Ali , they simply got hit a lot less for most of there careers ...

 

Frazier by an inch for me. Natural handicap, clean, forward-moving, no fouls, and the heart in Fight of the Century, the Sunshine Showdown, Thrilla in Manilla -- all that tilts it for me.

 

"A sudden rush of steroids?"

What on earth are you talking about? Steroids don't improve your stamina or your round to round recovery ability. They also don't flood into your system mid fight wtf lol.

I think it's a draw between them.

 

This is silly question both guys had massive heart.

 

This is a monumentally hard question...

I can't pick. Both had gonads the size of Mt. Kilimanjaro.

They are Gods of the sport imo.

 

Between those two, it's impossible
to say.

 

Wrong, they can improve stamina.

 

I've never heard of steroids improving cardiovascular endurance.

 

To boost their strength is not the sole reason athletes turn to steroids, Yesalis adds. "They have been taken for at least 45 years by endurance athletes to recover from workouts rapidly. With steroids, a marathon runner can run longer, a swimmer can do more laps and a cyclist can spend more time pedaling." In sports where endurance is everything, the ability to last longer during workouts and competitions confers a definite advantage.

https://www.psu.edu/news/research/story/probing-question-can-steroids-enhance-athletic-performance/

 

Tour de France riders have also been known to drop liquid cocaine into their eyeballs lol, they take ridiculously interesting cocktails of everything under the kitchen sink. They do take steroids and HGH though you're correct, though I assumed that was more for muscular recovery than muscular endurance.

 

That's funny, I read this same article before replying to you. It said that they help but doesn't go into detail at all, nor did anything else I found. Endurance athletes take steroids yes but steroids are the least important PED they take for their endurance. They wouldn't do blood transfusions and take EPO if they thought steroids were sufficient.

Whatevs though, I'll take your word for it.

 

It is beyond me to pick one. I will have to call it a draw!

 

I don't blame Joe for taking a few gimmes - although two in two years was putting the title on hold. But, yes, he'd earned the right to take his foot off the pedal.

But, if you're going to go around criticising people for being complacent when they were champions, then it looks bad when you spent a large chunk of time as champion paying more attention to being a singer and having a good drink then rocking up to a defence of your title with the beginnings of a pair of manboobs and a soft belly. It goes to show the size of his heart that he took that beating when he was in such bad shape. But he shouldn't have criticised others for only acting like he had.

 

Agreed. I don’t know what criteria people are using to rate one over the other truthfully. It’s not like we have an obvious contrast between the hearts of two guys like Muhammad Ali and Andrew Golata