Jack Dempsey is a Hired Gun

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  1. ron davis

    ron davis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Refer to, How Good was Rex Layne Thread of November 4th. Scroll down to when Jack refereed the Angott vs. Day Title fight in Louisville. You might find it very interesting.
     
  2. SolomonDeedes

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    Probably not, considering your inability to show a scrap of evidence that there was anything wrong with Dempsey's decision.
     
  3. ron davis

    ron davis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Our you serious, Charlie Jones answered your query in Cuddy's interview 2 years past the fight. John Lardner virtually said, Day was robbed, It's called The Louisville Set-Up. Dempsey told Pian&Winch if it's close Davey wins. By Dempsey's own vote Day lost by one point. Do you have any idea how many times Sammy clinch Day in each round, with Dempsey having to separate them. He voted four rounds even under those circumstances, that Day must have won. Angott should have lost the fight for clinching. Dempsey didn't take one round from Sammy. Check this claim out with his fight with Robinson. I am not judging Angott he was a great fighter, Dempsey was paid-off with his service as both referee and judge, and his bet on the winner, against Day who was the 8/5 favorite. This is not a reflection on Sammy he was on the up and up. His manager Honest Charlie Jones robbed him plenty, as they all do to fighters. Pian and Winch was the managers of Ross, Day, Mastro, Zale and others that all wind-up broke.
     
  4. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Must have heard this on Fox...they're pretty good at making up stories!!!
     
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  5. SolomonDeedes

    SolomonDeedes Active Member Full Member

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    John Lardner said no such thing. All ringside press scorecards have Angott winning by a wider margin than Dempsey did.
     
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  6. klompton2

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    You cant come up with any factual in the actual thread you started this garbage in so you create a new one? Again, repeating this lie wont make it true. Your grandfather lost the fight legitimately and simply wasnt championship material. Accept it and quit making up lies about people who cant defend themselves anymore to puff up your relative. If Day had been championship material he would have been able to notch more than one disputed controversial win in his hometown in the 7 or 8 fights he had against men who at one time or another held a title. The one controversial win he got, over Angott, was one of three fights they had, the others were won by Angott. The fight Day managed to win over Angott all of Day's hometown papers noted that decision was booed. They all also note that Angott led in the first six rounds. Collyers called the decision "very smelly" and reported that five licensed judges of the Illinois State Athletic Commission and three judges made clear they judged Angott the winner. It was also noted that despite Angott having already beaten Day huge sums of money were bet on Day in the leadup to the fight. So yeah, I think Id be careful about casting around allegations of a fix vis a vis your grandpa when you consider that the eye witness accounts all agreed that Angott beat Day not twice but three times, including both the championship fight that you pretend was fixed and the second fight which Day won in his hometown but which was controversial even to his hometown papers and fans.
     
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  7. ron davis

    ron davis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You are right true stories.
     
  8. ron davis

    ron davis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In Day's first fight with Angott he broke his right hand and still it was a split decision. He came out of the fight with his hand in a cast. You are misbehaving again with your ignorant comments, proving in fact that you don't know S**** about who were the the real Champions of Golden Age of Boxing. This is another subject that I am going to rim your arse with, now don't disappear, you got it coming. Have a good Day.
     
  9. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You want to rim my *******? Gross… I guess getting your ass kicked with the facts is a turn on to you?
     
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    I remember Klomp getting into epic rows on the CBZ a few years past the turn of the century (sounds weird saying that) He’s up for it.
     
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    Oops just say that video link..Didn’t mean he was up for that! lol
     
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  14. Tockah

    Tockah Ingo's Bingo Full Member

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    This is the Hydrogen Bomb of replies and I know @ron davis just received psychic damage. I laughed til I cried, this was so brutal and thorough.
     
  15. Tockah

    Tockah Ingo's Bingo Full Member

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    Hilarious if true, the local newspaper Louisville Courier-Journal said, "Angott knocked Day down in the 3rd round with a left hook. Day was up at one, and upon rising clinched." What a stupid move to rise at one count just to clench, take the eight count- no wonder why you lost. But AP reports it was a slip from a push, who knows?
     
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