Jarrell Miller

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  1. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  2. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It’s not like he is the only guy that got caught doing PEDs. Vitali Klitschko, Fury, Mosley, Canelo just to name a few. Mayweather used the stuff for his hands that was only legal in Nevada and the IV stuff. Pac had the secret shakes. Wladimir Klitschko did fight with pimples on his back.

    Miller and Whyte both Joshua-Hearn opponents got crucified for PEDs though.

    Hey, gun to my head; is Joshua clean? I know what my answer is going to be…..
     
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  3. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    nah
     
  4. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Miller was never going to be a standard-bearer at HW. The commercial significance of the USA market would be enough to get him a title shot, but he'd never make it past the eliminator level if he were forced to earn it the hard way. He's not elite.
     
  5. On The Money

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    Makes a mockery of the sport that he's still in it and sends the wrong message to cheats.
     
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  6. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Some of the men mentioned have never failed a test in their career, those that have failed what was found in their systems? What was found in Miller's system compared to the others?
     
  7. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well you are either clean or you are not clean under the rulebook.

    I am of the opinion that if you take vitamin C tablets you are not natural because they don’t grow on trees. I take vitamin C tablets. So I don’t care what anyone else takes.

    I know some of those guys never failed a drug test but if I see a full grown man with pimples on his back I know what’s up.
     
  8. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When he was alive, my father had "backne" well into his 80s.

    If you had seen him, I do not think you would have accused accused him of using PEDs.
     
  9. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Going off that performance I have my doubts Dubois can keep up with that.

    Browne is not what he used to be but he is large, tough, and he punches hard. I don’t think Dubois punches harder then Browne. Not by any real difference making metrics if at all.

    During the 3rd round you see the look on Browne’s face like what the **** I throw everything at this guy and I can’t really hurt him.
     
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  10. heerko koois

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    I,m also not sure that dubois wins this one .....60/40 in Daniel,s favor at best
     
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  11. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe, Dubois did show some boxing ability against Usyk. But he folds when the going gets tough. Personally I got it 60/40 in favor of Miller.
     
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  12. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Juan Manuel Beantown - sounds like a great fella!
     
  13. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Dubois via boring UD. You would assume Miller is clean by now which will impact what pre PED bust looked to be a serious gas tank so I see him fading early ish. Dubois could very well find a way to lose so it is an interesting match up
     
  14. BeantownAll

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    I don't think Browne had much punch resistance left by the time he faced Miller.

    Fa executed the just about stupidest strategy I've ever seen. Yes, Browne can still crack. But he's an old man with maybe 2-3 good rounds in him. So, yeah, if you stand in front of him feebly pawing at him with your jab - he's going to try to take advantage of that swiftly while he's still got his strength. Miler got on him from the get-go. He was already tiring by the 4th, but Browne had tired far more, as befits his age.
     
  15. MrPook

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    They both ate a lot of punches and were going hard for six rounds. Anyone gets tired from that. And if Browne didn’t have punch resistance left he would have fallen a lot earlier from the amount of punches he took.