Max Schmeling vs. Deontay Wilder

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter Full Member

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  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I respect max schmeling but honestly this is a mismatch. I don’t see what Max is going to hurt wilder with and reversely he won’t be able to take those right hands
     
  3. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Max Schmeling had a great fight with Louis, but he also lost to Max Baer. If Baer could stop him so could Wilder and probably in a spectacular fashion.
     
  4. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder outsizes Schmeling too much and he uses it, Schmeling was more skilled but Boxing is not only about skills, strenght and power and reach counts a lot.
     
  5. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Max has the more respected record, but here I see him getting hurt.
     
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  6. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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  7. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder has too much firepower here, but as I always point out when someone brings him up, Max Schmeling was a very skiled prize fighter and this would not be a Liston-Patterson or Tyson-Marvis Frazier replay. I think it actually could go a few rounds. And I'll say again ... broken record LOL ... this place's affinity for big punchers (calling Ron Lyle) is showing here, because Wilder absolutely packs a huge wallop but I don't consider him historically elite, he's not in my top 20 ATGs. He'd have trouble literally laying a glove on somebody like peak Ali.
     
  8. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, it's Max in a dangerous fight.

    He is giving up height and reach but inches are not only an advantage. They are also what weights you down when you punches get slipped and when an inside entry is consistently found by your opponent. It would be an understatement to say that there is gulf between what Schmeling represents, and what Wilder's opponents provided, Lois Ortiz included.

    Max is an elite talent, slick, educated all around, and a solid horse kick of a puncher himself. He upset Louis, beat the veteran Sharkey, was consistently above the likes of Risko and Uzcudun, and as far as I'm aware was the only man to ever stop Young Stribling.

    Wilder was protected, hidden, and smothered his whole career. He fought absolute cans or tailor made old man. He never came back from behind, he never had to rise to the occasion, he never had to adjust. The only half-slick man in the club fighter Artur Szpilka was giving him fits (Fury is a good mover, but also a 6'7 colossal target.)

    Heck, Wilder doesn't even come into the ring that heavy during a twelve round era; Schmeling befuddles, smothers him, outmaneuvers him, makes him tired, sloppy, and plodding. Wilder doesn't have the combinations, control game, and inside skills to counter a small fox, and while he is game all through the fight, he is not nearly enough of a pressure fighter to stop Max the way Louis or Baer did.
     
  9. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    ^This^
    Still, Wilder knocked down everyone he fought. Max Schmeling could last as long as Artur Szpilka and that's all. Schmeling is not known for his titanium chin.
    Although I don't think the fight would go any further than Schmeling's fights with Larry Gains and Gipsy Daniels.
    Wilder by KO.
     
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  10. Sailor Joe

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    To be fair, Baer (who I like a lot) fought an extremely dirty fight against Schmelling (which the ref allowed...)

    I think Schmelling would have done better had the ref been more inclined to actually enforce the rules in that match.
     
  11. Claude

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    you think Artur szpika is as good as max?
     
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  12. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Schmeling had the ability to figure out the greatest offensive
    heavyweight in history in one fight , he shouldn't be counted out against
    a one demensional fighter like Wilder who's biggest advantages
    (Height, reach, and power .) can be turned against him by a truly skilled
    opponent. There's nothing great about Wilder other than the power in
    his right hand (Which he usually telegraphed ) and his costumes,
    which he can blame when he loses.
    Schmeling should lose by a devastating ko........ But that's what all the "experts"
    thought when he faced Joe Louis the 1st time.
     
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  13. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    Schmeling should lose, but he is going to pull off an upset here. He is leagues above Wilder in everything aside from punching power.
     
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  14. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Give me Max beat 4 hall of famers and maybe the best heavyweight ever in their prime. Wilder not so much.
     
  15. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter Full Member

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