is prince naseem the most underated fighter?

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  1. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    barrera beat him flat, no question.

    flawed fundamentals no doubt.

    36 other guys tried, they didn't like the result they got.

    not saying he was some goat level guy, but he was so much better than the reputation most people seem to have of him.
     
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  2. cfckieran

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    Dont think he was underrated. He was a world class fighter and showman.
     
  3. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    He had too short of a career.
    His win over Kelley should be rated higher than it is, because even though he was dropped and all that that everybody knows, which people use to undervalue him (oh he had such a bad defense etc), well, he proved he was tough in there !
    Now, a win over Kevin Kelley is not something that should make him great or something.... I loved Kevin Kelley, but you know...

    Hamed was too bad tehcnically for me to like him.
     
  4. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think he's definitely underrated on this forum yes because of his arrogant attitude.

    15 title defences, lineal Featherweight champion, 8 wins against fighters who were world champions, 8 wins against top 10 ranked fighters.

    Very underrated resume.
     
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  5. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    if there's 1 fighter in history then for me it's saddler. pure prizefighter and a good man.

    was naz technically worse than sandy saddler? different refs i guess.

    126 was overweight for a 5'3 guy. saddler would have started at 126 under modern rules.
     
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  6. Boxed Ears

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    If there's a fighter that you can pick that might cause me to draw a distinction between being underrated and being underappreciated, I think it might be him. I think he gets underappreciated, because he doesn't get that much positive attention for his body of work and sensational performance, but he might be rated about right, in history, I think. Seventh.
     
  7. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Depends who you ask. His fans go overboard on him but he doesn’t have as many fans as he did.
     
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  8. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    Yes, Saddler was better technically than Hamed. He fought boxing, which is not only jabs and feet, Hamed used some type of choreography that hit people because he was fast.
    I am joking a bit though.... to me, Hamed had a short carreer, maybe he would beat someone like Morales had he continued, and we would view him highly. But he had 30 fights and 2 or 3 againt live guys..
     
  9. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Overrated H2H when active by casual fans.

    His resume can be underrated now hardcore boxing fans, as detailed by @Dynamicpuncher.
     
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  10. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hamed had a better judo throw. we can watch them both do it and hamed was sharper and had more impact.

    i don't remember why i compared saddler and hamed, that's on me.
     
  11. Dynamicpuncher

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    I do think you underrate him a bit though Chris, i've seen a post of yours before where you believe he should be rated outside of top 30 Featherweights. And based on his achievements at the weightclass and his H2H ability i don't see how that's possible personally.
     
  12. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    Boxed Ears, the one and only.
    Way back in the day when there was not this right here, nor youtube, I remember being so anxious to watch Hamed because most of his fights were not broadcasted on cable in my country, but he was talked a lot, and when I watched him against Barrera I was disappointing and found so weird to watch that guy fighting...
     
  13. The Professor

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    No, he's overrated. He was ridiculously hyped in his day, but when he fought top fighters like Kevin Kelly his lack of technique and durability was exposed, and then of course Barrera then utterly exposed him.

    He's one of these guys who largely got by on athletic ability and once he started to face better fighters that wasn't enough.
     
  14. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not only that, by the time Hamed got to him, Kelly had been damaged in the Gonzalez war. Damn, he was almost ko'd by mediocrity Ricardo Rivera(hope I got that name right. I simply don't remember), years before Hamed.
     
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  15. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    Good point. It wasn't even a prime Kelly he was facing - and yet, Kelly almost beat him. Hamed was, and is, grossly overrated by many.
     
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