Myth: Roberto Duran has a better resume than Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao.

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  1. steve1990

    steve1990 Active Member Full Member

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    Baldomir is one of the weakest lineal champions in boxing history.
     
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  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    That would be a good thread topic. Baldomir’s resume was better than the eye test.
     
  3. Greg Price99

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    Hatton didn't look out of shape on fight night for his LWW contests to me. He did look drawn & borderline ill at 140lbs weigh ins though.

    So, you think fighters of the past 10-years or so typically compete in the same weight division that they would have done in the 70's, but are much heavier on fight night. To my knowledge, you're the first person/poster I've come across who holds that belief.

    I think fighters today typically weigh in at a lower division, and are roughly the same weight on fight night, as they would have been had they fought in the 70's.
     
  4. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is a troll thread, sure. Floyd´s resume is actually pretty good though.
     
  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I don’t think they bulked much after weigh ins if you go way back to someone like Armstrong.

    But if we’re talking about the 70s and 80s, the rule change came about because they were already cutting and virtually none of those fighters dropped down when the rules changed.

    Hatton would’ve had no trouble at all getting to 140 if he stayed out of the pubs.
     
  6. Greg Price99

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    Do you think fighters gained an average of around 12lbs from weigh in to fight night in the 70's?

    Same question for the first couple of years after weighs moved to the day before?
     
  7. No_name_tard

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    Needed more fighters in their prime on it. Frustrating because you know he would still likely beat them.
     
  8. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    This can be said about most though. Unless the guy he beat was totally shot, there is something to it. Where the prime starts and ends is one to me and one to you, in a lot of cases. So.....
     
  9. NoNeck

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    Zero data. But I don’t think much changed about what boxers were doing between the 70s and 80s.
     
  10. No_name_tard

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    Fair. His resume from 130 to 140 has a lot of tough contenders and top ranked guys. But having atleast 1 prime ATG on it would be a net good.
     
  11. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    There are few boxers, on a historical level, who have better resumes than Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    Of course, you should look at boxing when champions entered the ring every 3 weeks, and modern boxing (whenever "modern boxing" started).
    I'm not getting into what Floyd Mayweather Jr. is. built his resume by fighting boxers who are no longer prime (it's one of the blemishes of "modern boxing").
     
  12. janitor

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    I would be very comfortable saying that Duran had them both licked on quality of wins.

    The argument of GOAT at Lightweight usually comes down to three men, and he is one of them.

    On top of that he was able to lift the Welterweight title, from a man who is sometimes regarded as a top three all time Welter.

    Titans clashed back then.
     
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  13. Greg Price99

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    Common sense should tell us fighters didn't typically gain c.12lbs between weighing early afternoon and that same evening.

    I agree not much changed in weight making between the 70's and 80's.

    A lot changed between the 80's and the 10's, though.
     
  14. steve1990

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    He beat an off night Zab Judah and a shot Arturo Gatti.
     
  15. NoNeck

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    Clottey and some others too.