Is this the best performance by a British boxer overseas in the modern era?

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  1. 20thCenturyBox

    20thCenturyBox Member Full Member

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    John H Stracey went to Mexico City to challenge Jose Napoles for the WBC welterweight title. Napoles had Stracey down in the first round, but Stracey bounced back to stop him in the sixth. Napoles was 37 at the time, and retired after this fight. Personally, I think Lloyd Honeyghan's win over Donald Curry was even better because Curry was in his prime, despite the excuses about being drained at the weight. Are there other candidates out there?

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  2. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It depends what you mean by best performance.

    Best result, at the elite level, relative to expectations going into the fight? Yes, Stacey vs Napoles has a decent shout.

    In literal terms, some of Lennox Lewis's performances, from a p4p perspective, were likely at a higher level than Stacey's vs Napoles, because Lewis at his best was a better fighter than Stacey at his.
     
  3. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Joe Calzaghe’s wins over Hopkins and to a lesser extent Roy Jones Jr were pretty impressive.
     
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  4. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hopkins, whilst older than Napoles was when Stracey beat him, wasn't as far removed from his prime. In terms of best performance however, this should be balanced with the fact that Stracey stopped Napoles whereas Joe won an SD over Hopkins.

    RJJ was further removed from his prime vs Joe, than Jose his vs John, though, imo.

    If Calzaghe’s performances against Lacy and Kessler had been abroad, they'd get my vote over Straceys performance vs a faded Naploes.
     
  5. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    probably Farr vs Louis, if that's not too far back to be considered modern.
     
  6. My dinner with Conteh

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    Honeyghan's win is arguably the biggest surprise result of the 1980s at any weight. Curry was the PfP #1 in the only magazines that did those ratings back then KO & World Boxing- the Stanley Weston publishing ones (Ring only started their rankings when Stanley acquired it) while Napoles had faded a bit by the time he fought John, especially after his fights with Armando Muniz (the first one being a blatant robbery).

    I live by John (he's an adopted Northerner these days). He's such a pleasant fella and him and his wife Kathy are always in the local papers doing some charity work and the like. But Lloyd wins this one, i'd say.
     
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  7. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe not the best but I have to mention two of the most exciting British wins overseas in Nigel Benn’s one round win against Iran Barkley and Carl Froch’s come from behind last round win against Jermain Taylor.
     
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  8. No_name_tard

    No_name_tard Active Member Full Member

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    Buchanan's victory over a still prime Laguna in the 1st fight.
     
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  9. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    No votes for Danny McAlinden for beating Rahman Ali on the FOTC undercard I see.
     
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  10. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "McAlinden beats Ali" makes quite surreal reading at first glance,does n't it?
     
  11. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    when i see threads i think my own thought (and usually post if i have an answer) before reading what people wrote.

    in this case i was very undecided between a bunch of fights.

    i was torn between 10 fights, after reading buchanan laguna and froch taylor look the standouts to me.
     
  12. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I've always liked John H and his victory over Napoles is one of the best wins for a Brit abroad. As good as it was,though,it takes bronze medal to Honeyghan-Curry and Buchanan-Laguna.


    If the first Randy Turpin-Sugar Ray Robinson fight had been in the USA like the return bout,then it would have been well up there in the mix.