Wilder would stop Usyk

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by GotchaHat, Dec 26, 2023.


  1. Ginobili

    Ginobili New Member banned Full Member

    44
    51
    Dec 24, 2023
    Wilder on his best night would be punching air and would lose 12-0 decision .
    Wilder shouldn’t be mentioned in same sentence with Usyk , let alone compared . There are levels in boxing and wilder never been on Usyk’s level.
     
    BubblesUK likes this.
  2. Ginobili

    Ginobili New Member banned Full Member

    44
    51
    Dec 24, 2023
    wilder is the epitome of can crusher .
     
    BubblesUK likes this.
  3. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

    3,593
    6,242
    May 6, 2021
    Exactly.

    Wilder's best win is Ortiz, who has a worse resume than some undisputed gatekeepers (Chisora, for instance)... and he was already old when Wilder fought him, and it was a close run fight, needing referee assistance to save Wilder from getting stopped.

    Wilder also got embarrassed by rusty and unfit Fury in the first fight and only rescued a draw with a corrupt card...
    And got shut out completely by Parker, who has always been a fairly solid but uninspiring contender.

    Let's face it, Wilder just wouldn't stand a chance - his resume is barely even fringe contender level, and his lack of skill contrasts completely with Usyks elite footwork, punch selection and ring IQ.
    It'd be a total mismatch - punchers chance at best.
     
    Ginobili likes this.
  4. MisterMan80

    MisterMan80 New Member banned Full Member

    12
    7
    Dec 23, 2023
    It is hilarious how these biased European boxing fans and other casuals over hype Usyk at heavyweight. Lol this guy beat a old Chazz Witherspoon who was never any good to began with. Beat a old Derek Chisora who was never good to began with (David Haye another blown up cruiser weight destroyed a prime Chisora while Usyk barely eaked past a past his prime Chisora). Then Usyk beat the slow robotic mentally damaged Anthony Joshua after Andy Ruiz knocked him out first. Which is funny because if Usyk is a legend at the heavyweight division for beating Joshua wouldn't that means Ruiz is also a legend to a greatest extent? Then Usyk beat Danel Dubois. You know the heavyweight that everybody here probably stated was a bum because he almost lost to Kevin Larena. But some how this makes Usyk this monster at heavyweight. Head to head nobody could beat him. He is the most skilled heavyweight in the history of boxing. The guy who can't even land 30 percent of his punches against guys like Joshua, Dubois, or even Chisora

    Could you imagine a prime George Foreman, Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson, Riddick Bowe or even a prime blown up Cruiser weight like Evander Holyfield failing to land 30 percent of their punches against Chisora, Dubois, or timid Joshua? Hell even a 43 year old George Foreman was landing roughly 50 percent of his punches against a 23/24 year old Tommy Morrison was better skill wise than any of those opponents Usyk fought.

    This is the same way these same European boxing fans hero worship Tyson Fury. The dude beat a 40 year old Wlad by decision while only landing 86 punches in 12 rounds and then Fury beat Wilder. The guy you people claim is a bum. But some how this makes Tyson Fury one of the all time greats. Could you again imagine a prime Foreman, Lewis, Mike Tyson, Riddick Bowe fighting a 40 year old Wladimir Klitschko and not knocking him out? You could imagine them getting in the ring with a timid 40 year old glass chin Wlad and only landing 86 punches in 12 rounds?

    The heavyweight division is bad. It is the worst division in boxing and has been so for a while. But it is funny how people who clearly get their boxing information from Watching YouTube videos about boxing try to pretend to be legit fans and boxing experts.

    But anyway Wilder is 38 years old. He isn't in his prime. He has had way more fights than Usyk has. Wilder is done. But Usyk is a fighter who as I said does a lot of running. He doesn't land a high percentage of his punches against anybody so he would get in the ring and run and try to slap his way to victory. Usyk has no power at heavyweight so Wilder wouldn't be afraid to engage him. So you can't even compare what Usyk did against Dubois who quit and Joshua who was too afraid to throw punches because he was afraid to get knocked out.

    If Wilder could knock down Fury (You know the guy with the greatest chin in boxing history even though Steve Cunnigham a light punching cruiser weight knocked him down with one punch and light punching Nevin Pajkic also knocked him down with one punch. Or wait is Tyson Fury a bum because he struggled against Ngannou? Because you fickle people love to jump back and forward on whatever bangwagon that is popular) then he could knock down Usyk.

    Wilder has proven nothing in his career besides he can knock out tomato cans. Usyk has proven nothing at heavyweight because he could beat old men and hype jobs after they were beaten by other people first.
     
  5. Ginobili

    Ginobili New Member banned Full Member

    44
    51
    Dec 24, 2023
    Wilder throughout his career could have faced Wlad, Povetkin, AJ , Chisora, Whyte, Parker ,Zhang, Hrgovic, Ruiz , Joyce, Dubois and many others but he chose cans and I don’t think he would have ever faced Fury if he knew what he was getting into, Fury was jus a cherry pick gone wrong, now he faced someone who wasn’t 40 wasn’t shot and got 12-0 .
    Wilder and Fury fans blame it on his age , but just a week ago they were very vocal and confident wilder kills Joshua in 2 , knocks out Usyk and he was second baddest man on the planet and just a few days later they call him shot.
     
    J Jones and BubblesUK like this.
  6. Ginobili

    Ginobili New Member banned Full Member

    44
    51
    Dec 24, 2023
    wilder and Fury are both vastly overrated . Usyk maybe getting overrated at HW, but he is still superior to wilder who was always a big joke .
    Usyk has Joshua twice and that is better than anything wilder or fury have.
     
    slash and BubblesUK like this.
  7. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

    3,593
    6,242
    May 6, 2021
    It's miles beyond everything Wilder has.

    Fury... Wlad is a serious win, okay it was ugly but it was a very, very good win... It's a lifetime ago though and Fury isn't nearly the same fighter, so has little bearing on Usyk-Fury, but it does count for plenty when resumes as a whole are considered.
     
    J Jones and Ginobili like this.
  8. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

    5,191
    1,715
    Nov 22, 2014
    I believe its harder to land clean in Usyk than Parker...
     
  9. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

    7,175
    5,448
    Jul 22, 2019
    Stop Usyk? Lol.

    He would stop nothing.
     
  10. MisterMan80

    MisterMan80 New Member banned Full Member

    12
    7
    Dec 23, 2023
    And Wilder has Ortiz. The guy so many people claimed was the boogieman of the division. Also as I said Joshua was just knocked out by overweight dough boy Andy Ruiz. Joshua was clearly mentally damaged.

    So at heavyweight Usyk is just as big as a joke as Wilder is. The main differences Europeans in Europeans and Europeans in the USA will praise everything Usyk does at heavyweight while waiving their fingers at Wilder.
     
  11. MisterMan80

    MisterMan80 New Member banned Full Member

    12
    7
    Dec 23, 2023
    Fury beating a 40 year old Wlad and struggling to do so isn't impressive. It is like saying since Leon Spinks beat a past his prime Ali it means Spinks is a all time great. The funny thing is Ali wasn't 40 years old like Wlad was.
     
  12. Ginobili

    Ginobili New Member banned Full Member

    44
    51
    Dec 24, 2023
    Joshua >>> ortiz and that’s not even close. Wilder is and always was a can crusher. Deal with it .
     
    J Jones and BubblesUK like this.
  13. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

    70,557
    26,673
    Jul 26, 2004
    Obvious troll is obvious.
     
    CST80 likes this.
  14. Ginobili

    Ginobili New Member banned Full Member

    44
    51
    Dec 24, 2023
    well wlad was 40 and Fury was juiced up , he then ran from a rematch and considering how unimpressive the fight was I can’t give Fury much credit.
     
  15. MisterMan80

    MisterMan80 New Member banned Full Member

    12
    7
    Dec 23, 2023
    Lol Joshua got knocked out by Andy Ruiz. A 50 year old Ortiz got knocked down by Ruiz and got back up. Which means a 50 year old Ortiz was still better than Joshua. Deal with it.