Parker Would Always Beat Wilder. Wilder Would Always Beat Joshua

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  1. FrankinDallas

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    Only in the UK was AJ the bigger draw which would have been fine, a big Wembley crowd would show up.

    Hearn has been crowing for a year that AJ needs to gradually get his moko back. AJ want belts but until Fury and Usyk work it out there are no available belts. The IBF strips the winner and AJ gets the match with #1 Hrgovic I guess.

    Regarding worthwhile, in no way is fighting Big Bang worthwhile. Big risk for no belt.
     
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  2. MisterMan80

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    Joshua couldn't deal with a 41 year old Wlad with ease. Lol Europeans are so biased that it isn't funny. Joshua doesn't have a good chin. Joshua is robotic. Luis Ortiz was old but at the time Wilder faced him he was far more fluid in the ring and probably had a better chin than Joshua.

    Also Wilder was protected by Joshua wasn't? Joshua struggled with a 41 year old Wlad, Beat Joseph Parker, the same Joseph Parker who could barely beat Chisora. The same Chisora in his prime who got destroyed by blown up Cruiser weight David Haye, Joshua beat a 39 year old Alexander Povetkin. Joshua beat Dillian Whyte a guy who was never anything special. Joshua beat Andy Ruiz but only after Ruiz knocked him out first and then gave 30 pounds. Then Joshua beat Wallin.

    You might say but Joshua beat Parker and Parker beat Wilder. That mean something right? Wilder is pushing 40 years old. He is done. A early 30's Wilder would of destroyed Parker. The hilarious thing is that Parker didn't look good against a 40 year old Wilder. Wilder just looked so bad because he is old (and Wilder wasn't even good when he was young). Parker landed around 80 punches in 12 rounds. That is a low amount of punches. As I said in another post. George Foreman landed 225 punches in 12 rounds against Tommy Morrison who landed 260 against Foreman. Tommy Morrison was a much better fighter than Wilder and Morrison was in his prime. Morrison was also a huge puncher who admitted to being on steroids. Parker isn't anything special because he beat a old Wilder.

    But Wilder would probably always knock out Joshua. Especially a younger Wilder. Joshua beating Otto Wallin a guy who never did anything in his career besides cut overrated Tyson Fury doesn't mean Joshua is back or anything special either.
     
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  3. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Sure, but AJ does good numbers because of the UK market - way better money than Wilder pulls in.

    Ultimately that's the point - Wilder isn't a big enough draw to justify the cuts he'd demand from AJ... Call it diva behaviour if you like, but thats the simple economic reality at this point.

    Which means for the fight to be worth making, there needs to be more to gain than just money - and the only other things are belts or positioning for belts...
    As you say, he's not going to get a crack at Fury or another go at Usyk, so the most obvious fight to make is Hrgovic... next down the line is probably Zhang - especially if the split is suitable.

    All in all though, Wilder's just had his ranking positions dropped hard and the overall pot for an AJ-Wilder fight slashed - but Wilder being Wilder would still expect a big ol' cut... In practical terms, it's just not a fight worth making anymore.
     
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  4. Rodrigo Boom

    Rodrigo Boom Member Full Member

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    No European bias here. Our heavyweights are just so much better than yours. America have not produced a decent heavyweight in over 20 years. Other weights, yes, heavyweights, no!
     
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    MisterMan80 New Member banned Full Member

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    Lol probably because the USA doesn't care about boxing like it used too. It is kind of funny how back when the USA did care about boxing and dominated you didn't see a European mention boxing. The moment America stopped caring about boxing and Europe gets some heavyweight champions it goes to your head.
     
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    I don't know how AJ vs Wilder goes but I agree a motivated Parker could always trouble Wilder. Though, Parker can be undermined at times by lack of aggressiveness. Unfortunately for Wilder that wasn't the case in their fight.

    So with that idea in mind, that Parker is always a poorer matchup for Wilder, it makes this management even dumber from Wilders handlers.

    I honestly don't know what they were thinking in choosing one of Wilders best opponents, by far, for a comeback type fight, building to an AJ fight.


    Horrendous blunder and fumble by Wilders management.

    Yes let's put Wilder in with one of the very few heavyweights on the planet not susceptible to Wilders style or power.
     
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    Joshua knocks wilder out 9 times out of 10
     
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  8. Ginobili

    Ginobili New Member banned Full Member

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    Parker would always beat wilder and Joshua would always knock wilder out.
     
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  9. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    I've thought the same for a while...

    Not fought in a couple of years so probably rusty - check.
    Getting older and possibly fading physically - check.
    Only one easy squish win since being demolished by a fat and unfit pillowfist, an embarrassing loss - check.

    Right, what our boy needs now is an opponent who's levels better than anyone he's ever beaten, with a better chin than anyone he's ever knocked out... All agreed?

    His handlers must've been on that wacky pipe with him...
     
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  10. Rodrigo Boom

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    I don't think you get Europeans, we don't like each other. We aren't some bull**** united front like Murica. Also you weren't really likely to hear anything pre Internet forum days, melt.
     
  11. Sks476

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    Americans pay around $100 for ppv and the right fight can bring in millions of US ppv buys. I would say America still has a very large boxing following, maybe the highest of all nations
     
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    This is how boxing should be, it is a sport after all.

    Why do so many find it acceptable for top fighters to take easy fights to build their profiles and gain hype? If Wilder needs to avoid fighters like Parker, boxing is no longer a sport.
     
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    12 posts and gets banned. Surely that's a record to be proud of.....not.
     
  14. FrankinDallas

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    Probably would have made more sense for Wilder to fight De Mori, then Hrgovic fight Parker which could have been a very interesting fight.
     
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  15. MidniteProwler

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    Lets not forget that Parker didn’t really get a fair shake in his fight with AJ
     
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