HOW Exactly PARKER Beat WILDER - Best Film Studies

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  1. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Was Parker using "Fury" tactics to beat Wilder? Partly - but they were refined and developed to the point of "Hit without being hit". This was no "accidental" victory. It was thoroughly thought-out, planned and executed. A total shut-out.

    Two 'Film study' videos are below. Both are very valuable in showing the exact tactics used-

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  2. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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  3. piprules

    piprules Active Member Full Member

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    A total schooling by Parker. People should put some respect on his name, he now has one of the best record of any heavyweight fighting today.
     
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  4. Maxcassidy86

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    Waiting for a full upload of the fight to YouTube, but from what I have seen Parker used distance and range very well.
     
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  5. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, Fury 2 demonstrable showed how technically poor Wilder is on the back foot. Parker had a bit more difficult job of pushing him back since he doesn't have Fury's height and reach and therefore can't work behind the jab as easily, but he positioned himself well on Wilder's perimeter and kept him unsure with feints and shifts and set up his attacks well. A very well executed game plan.
     
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  6. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Luckily for Parker he has speed to compensate for his lack of size. The ease with which he was able to beat Wilder to the punch was a bit of a surprise as Wilder is known for his speed too to go with his reach. But it was very clear who was faster and while Wilder can counter it's not really one of his fortes and so he had no answer for being beaten to the punch.

    Also that first step in of Parker really showed how quick his feet are and how bad Wilder's movement in response was, because whenever Wilder tried to plant those feet, Parker was on him before he could uncork a right hand. Probably in part why Wilder was just so passive for most of the fight, whenever he stopped moving and tried to throw he got punished for it.

    Then of course there was the overhand right to counter any attempt at offence from Wilder, leaning to his own left to take him outside of the path of any Wilder right hand to safely land a big OH right. The success he had with that makes me think had Wilder ever fought Povetkin, Povetkin would of KO'ed him because Povetkin was great at that and used that a lot vs Joshua's jab when they fought. Also makes me think Chisora would be a tough style for Wilder too because that's Chisora's go to KO punch.

    All the feints too, he had Wilder backing up onto the ropes without even throwing a punch. Suffice to say Andy Lee did a great job, no doubt with some input from Fury and yes they executed the perfect game plan and totally disarmed Wilder, to put on a clinic.
     
  7. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There are so many of the top contenders of the last 10 years that look a good bet to do what Parker did or better. Povetkin, as you say, could very well be one of the most dangerous of those with his blistering attacks.
     
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  8. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Parker excellently used his superior speed, a solid game plan, managed the distance superbly keeping Wilder constantly out of range, and used feints effectively to keep Wilder gun shy.

    On rewatch, it’s clear this was an excellent showing from Parker who dominated the fight and imo won 12-0. A lot of fans (namely the Wilder and Fury fanboys on here) have tried to discredit Parker by claiming Wilder was utterly cooked. He is no doubt past his best but to deny the fact that Parker’s excellent performance was an equally large factor in the loss for me is disservice to Joseph. If Wilder had been a few years younger he would have also had all kinds of difficulties, he struggled against movers with great hand speed (always has).
     
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  10. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    True but so was Ortiz when he first fought Wilder, yet that's apparently his best win. Now Parker has a career best win over a 38 year old, at worst it's a win on par with Wilder beating Ortiz.

    Plus nobody was bringing Wilder's age up prior to the Parker fight. Was he prime, of course not, but lets not pretend he was shot either, going in he had looked like his normal self in his previous fight KOing Helenius in 1 round. If anything inactivity hampered his performance rather than his age and that's down to Wilder being an idiot and not taking stay busy fights like many do. Parker did while waiting for a big fight, Hrgovic has been doing the same too. If we have to make an excuse for Wilder then it's he again showed a lack of foresight and went in with the best opponent of his career with terrible preparation and rightly got schooled.

    If anything people were saying Parker was done, having been stopped by Joyce and having a bunch of tough fights throughout his career. Which is why many like myself picked Wilder to win. But then the fight happened and it was clear we were wrong about Parker and that he still had plenty of fire and desire and left in him and that his career was far from over.
     
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  11. ellerbe

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    Lmfao pathetic kiwis are still jizzing over their guy beating a shot to **** 38 year old. **** is funny.
     
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  12. steviebruno

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    Yes, a 38 year old Ortiz is Wilder's best win, but a younger Ortiz probably stops him. I think that a prime Ortiz would've been a serious problem for Fury, Usyk, etc.

    ...If Parker's and Wilder's ages were swapped, how do you see the fight going? Just curious.
     
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  13. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And Wilder cuckos still bigging up the Ortiz wins..which, like all of Wilders resume, aged like sh!t...cause beating Wilder at 38 dont mean nothing but beating 38 yr old Ortiz is an ATG win....just ask @ellerbe

    It wasnt complicated. Parker tucked his head when he came in and kept his left arm up to block a straight right.

    Shame Wilder never learned an uppercut to counter Parkers very simple tactic
     
  14. Sandman_

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    All hail the great Kiwi conqueror! Destroyer of Doodles!!

    I'm reserving final judgement on the overall quality of Big Joe's win until I see a slow-motion, frame-by-frame breakdown of every punch Big Joe landed during the fight. Such an analysis would be worthy of a Rumspringa video.

    How the man from New Zealand laid waste to the boxing career of Neon Deon Tay.

    Kiwi boxing fans could watch it while the Olympics are on.
     
  15. Brighton bomber

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    31 year old Wilder was the Wilder who was losing to Washington before coming back with a come from behind KO. Would I favour 38 year old Parker to beat him? Can't say because we don't know what a 38 year old Parker would even look like. So it's kind of pointless to even predict a fight when one fighter would be a completely unknown quantity.

    All I know is I'd pick Parker at his best to beat any version of Wilder we've seen.
     
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