HOW Exactly PARKER Beat WILDER - Best Film Studies

In Parker's homeland they call him Kufu Malufunufo Makkalakka Ubundo. For a reason.

 

Of course, avoiding the fight until Wilder had been stopped twice and was approaching 40 was another tactic leading to the victory.
That's the honest truth whether you like Wilder or not.

 

Avoiding Wilder? Think you got it the wrong way around.

 

"at worst it's a win on par with Wilder beating Ortiz."

Ortiz was old but he was not physically or mentally shot, Wilder is mentally shot. Hence he "fought" as Scott did vs Ortiz. Ortiz from 2018 would have probably KO'd this version of Wilder and almost certainly beaten him.

The loss wasn't about age or inactivity strictly speaking, it's about Wilder having his soul taken. Before Fury 3 in 2021 he said "You can't buck-break me". Why would he say that if he didn't feel it had already happened? And by his own logic, it happened again. Ever since then he'd mentally checked out of the sport. Helenius running into a right hand in round 1 wasn't conclusive evidence that Wilder would turn up in physical or mental condition 14 months later. The fact that he didn't take stay busy fights is evidence that his heart wasn't in it. This was a cash out fight.

Wilder had no desire when he fought Parker, Franklin would beat him now. If he has a trilogy with Ortiz there's a good chance the old man beats this time.

"If anything people were saying Parker was done"

This was a pre-emptive excuse from the brigade who were worried that Wilder would win. There were a multitude of factors which suggested that Wilder was the one at risk of producing an awful performance, hence I bet on Parker stopping him early despite not being confident at all in that outcome:

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...etter-time-for-parker-to-upset-wilder.713736/

And Parker could have stopped him early. It was not an impressive performance in my eyes. Though credit to Parker for taking and winning the fight as a 5/1 underdog.

 

I don't think either ducked, I think Parker went where the money was and fought Joshua instead. But team Parker didn't see 2017 Wilder as a soft target, or they'd have taken short money to beat him, got the WBC and had undisputed with Joshua for a much bigger bag.

 

Wilder was never a great boxer, he is a great puncher though. The Parker fight is what happens when he can't land that big punch.

Age may have caught up with Wilder, wear and tear too but he is still a live dog against most and some good fights out there for him.

 

I find it hilarious how many people try to make the argument Wilder is "mentally shot". Had he magically found a one-punch knockout towards the later rounds and KO'd Parker then Wilder would be described as being "on the top of his game" and "peak performance".

Wilder is not shot nor any worse than 5 years ago. He's just Wilder.

 

You absolute spastic So now it’s Parker’s fault (previously Joshua’s) that Wilder wasn’t worth a damn?

JP got offered more than twice the amount to fight Joshua. What the hell was he meant to do?

Hell, from memory, people were getting more to fight Povetkin back then

Bum ass one trick pony wasn’t known outside of the states.

 

Maybe Fury took his soul, after being stopped for the first time like that he wouldn't be the first fighter to be gun shy once being KO'ed.

I agree Helenius was no proof he was back as I said going into that fight it was a complete mismatch, an acceptable first fight back after the loss but still an easy confidence builder fight and one that was never meant to test him.

I'd still favour Wilder now vs that 2018 Ortiz. Ortiz is still a plodder who unlike Parker is more a natural counter puncher and will allow Wilder at times to load up on the right hand which is why Wilder both times found the KO punch. It's why I still favour current Wilder over Ruiz even now and also why I'd still think he'd beat Franklin who is basically Stiverne 2.0 another counter puncher with poor movement who would be right there in front of him and not push him back like Parker so he can fire the right.

Maybe some were saying that to create an excuse for a Parker loss but I for one thought he was done at the top level. He was being called a gatekeeper after the Joyce loss. Which is why many like myself picked Wilder to win.

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/what-does-joseph-parker-do-now.696456/

You clearly saw things more clearly than most, though as the link you posted in that thread in 2020 more thought Parker would win. So for us to pick Wilder in 2023 either we thought Parker got worse or Wilder got better and it definitely wasn't the latter as you pointed out this was not a prime Wilder which we both agree is to be the case. I just thought Parker was more done than Wilder and I admit I was wrong really wrong.

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/wilder-vs-parker-who-wins.645151/

I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens in Wilder's next fight. I think I overrated him in general or more accurately fell for the myth that Wilder could KO anyone and also overrated what he had left which is why I picked Wilder to come from behind to KO Parker. Which kind of annoys me if I'm honest, I'd always favoured Parker over Wilder then the Joyce loss happened and that coloured my view of him.

 

You just talk rubbish

 

Yes you certainly called it correctly pre fight

 

Well the problem is there wasn't a whole lot to nullify, Wilder acted like Parker was George Foreman and circled him ,backing away for the whole fight and you can count the times he committed to throwing a hard shot in 12 rounds on your hands. Add to that what other posters have said about Parkers lack of activity in this fight and it was hardly a master class performance. It was a good win for him sure, but seriously he didn't look any better or worse than he has his last several fights

 

Nah. Parker shelled up every time Wilder stepped in with an occasional right hand. What Parker was countering was Wilder's slow, lazy jab. Wilder has always had poor fundamentals, but he used to be much snappier and quicker with his jab.

Given his limited skill set, that jab was his only delivery system for his right hand. Without it, Wilder couldn't pull the trigger.

... But this was the absolute worst version on Deontay Wilder, no question. He looked like a shot fighter and Parker should've been able to get him out of there.