Jersey Joe v the Greatest

I assume this a Prime vs Prime discussion.............

Walcott was considered by yesterdays Press a Journeyman.

Walcott lost pre Prime, Prime and past Prime...........he just lost, sometimes to absolute Nobodies in the Grand Scheme of things.

In no Universe will Walcott ever beat Clay/Ali, prime vs prime , IMO it would not even be close, Ali would put a absolute number on him.

 

How do you think Ali would fight Walcott?

 

Norton never fought Joe Louis...

 

Ali's style is predicated on playing the matador so fighting an evasive counter-puncher like Walcott would definitely throw him off and make for an awkward fight. Walcott has the ability to make him miss and walk him into some big shots. Walcott possesses a craftiness that Ali luckily never saw in his career. If he won it would be by the skin of his teeth (or probably just another bogus decision).

 

Amidst wild cheering, blood-smeared Rex Layne of Utah established himself as a heavyweight challenger tonight by winning an upset 10 round decision over ex-challenger Jersey Joe Walcott in MSG. Layne, Lewiston, Utah, forced the fighting in every round and gave the 36 year old Walcott a thorough trouncing, despite the fact that Rex was handicapped by blood from cuts near his left eye as early as the first round. Layne surprised the fans with his aggressiveness and the explosiveness of his punche which knocked Joe into the ropes several times. Layne, only 22, was bleeding so badly from his left eye in the closing sessions that Dr. Vincent Nardiello of the NY Boxing Commission's staff examined the wounds after the 8th and 9th rounds, but he permitted the bout to continue. There were no knockdowns." -United Press /
The Charles win for Layne was widely considered to be a joke.A year later Charles confirmed it by taking a UDEC, flooring Layne 3 times along the way.

 

Please don't mention Murray as proof of the durability of Walcott's chin!
Referee Eddie Leonard disqualified Lee Q. Murray, Norwalk, Conn., tonight after eight rounds of listless fighting and awarded the decision to Jersey Joe Walcott of Camden, NJ, in the 10 round feature event at the Coliseum. Walcott forced the fight throughout, while Leonard repeatedly warned Murray to mix it. The crowd booed the main event from the 5th round on, and in the 8th, heavily wrapped newspapers began falling in the ring." -Associated Press

• The Maryland State Boxing Commission announced after the fight that it was holding up Murray's share of the purse and was summoning he and his manager to give an account of what happened at the commission's meeting the following Monday.

Young was a top 3 ranked heavyweight.Allen,Lazer,and Ketchel were unranked journeymen.

 

Walcott would lose a wide decision to Freedom Hall Ali and be stopped by Bahamas Ali, in brutal fashion. Walcott wouldn't even be among his twelve hardest fights. I'll name them if anybody wants. Hell, I'll name fifteen if so inclined. Fifteen !!! Walcott would be somewhere between Joe Bugner and Rudi Lubbers.

 

Murray was thoroughly bamboozled and couldn't figure Joe out. Don't see how that nullifies the win.

 

Walcott gives the Bonavena Ali a thorough spanking and takes a UD from a wheezing Muhammad.
The only time Ali had better footwork than Jersey Joe was during the 60s and debatably in Norton and Frazier 2.

 

Harder Fights (No order}

Ali- Frazier 1
Ali-Frazier 2
Ali-Frazier 3
Ali-Norton 1
Ali-Norton 2
Ali- Norton 3
Ali- Liston !
Ali-Liston 2
Ali-Patterson 1
Ali-Patterson 2
Ali-Foreman
Ali-Ellis
Ali- Bonavena
Ali- Young
Ali-Miteff
Ali- Chuvalo 1
Ali-Chuvalo 2
Ali-Shavers
Ali-Jones
Ali-Spinks 1
Ali-Spinks 2

 

Murray entered the ring with severely injured hands and did no meaningful punching. He certainly didn't put Walcott's chin to the test.

 

Murray was thrown out for not trying!

 

An Ali who had fought less the 3 rounds in the previous nearly 4 years? Can we have these men matched in their primes?

 

On the flip side of the coin, Walcott beat a shed load of punchers.

His record is essentially a puncher intensive one.