Sanchez vs Dubois

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ShodanAI, Jan 18, 2024.


Who wins this?

  1. Sanchez KO

    14 vote(s)
    70.0%
  2. Dubois KO

    6 vote(s)
    30.0%
  1. ShodanAI

    ShodanAI New Member banned Full Member

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    Sanchez is like a stray dog, pissing on the all the trees that dont matter, while Dubois is a stray cat pissing on pitbulls. Lots of people forget Dubois is 25, by the time he is 30 he will have that strap. Sanchez needs to wake up.

    But look at their fight, both are big black machines, explosive ones and both look like bodybuilders, this would be Holyfield-Tyson type of fight, take that with a grain of salt from inflence asepect, nevertheless a fight worth watching, unlike AJ-Naganou.

    Dubois proved he aint a quitter but how will he handle opponent that has bombs in his hands and aint afraid to let them loose, will he go in like he did with Miller. Sanchez is a boring fighter, but when he throws them hands, and relaxses
     
  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    While I think Sanchez is a little overrated by some here, but Dubois is bang average, Sanchez stops him. I doubt Warren would risk putting him in against someone on Sanchez's level anytime soon, he barely beat Miller.
     
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  3. DoubleG95Fanatic

    DoubleG95Fanatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sanchez would have his way with Dubois, don't rate Dubois at all and never have.
     
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  4. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Dubois is a prospect who's been pushed too far, too soon - and lost a couple of times as a result - but he's clearly the better proven of the two.

    I tend to back more proven fighters and I'm not seeing enough here to break that pattern.
     
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  5. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    It's an interesting fight.

    How many guys who weigh over 240 pounds can do what Frank Sanchez can do and who also look like an adonis?
     
  6. Unique Way

    Unique Way Active Member Full Member

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    I disagree. Dubois is talented. Flawed? Yes, clearly. But he is gifted physically and has pretty good offensive skills. He puts his combos very well, mixing them to the head and body, has ramrod jab and can time you with counter punches. The things he lacks are mental strength and defensive skills.

    Oh, and he didn't "barely" beat Miller. He won like 8 rounds of 10 and stopped him. It's hardly a "barely beat"
     
  7. ShodanAI

    ShodanAI New Member banned Full Member

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    Gifted naturally, has flaws yes, but the way he fights is "attractive", until it isnt, but he needs opponent for that. Also, he did bring champion down, that was not a low blow, low blow should hit bladder/balls, he was 1 cm below the belt, which was above bellybutton.

    But hey, we cant risk Fury-Usyk unification. Imo Naganou was robbed aswell.
     
  8. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fa fight seemed like an improvement for Sanchez, as in he didn't try to shove himself into a front foot high guard. Truth is, he will never be a clasically masterful fighter like say Usyk is. There will always be that Jackal-like, Cuban note to his game, with patience insufferable for most boxing fans, and fifteen minutes of circling the ring and working on inches before moving on to counter by an inch in a flash of genius.
     
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  9. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Still a fan. Always a fan.
     
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  10. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's fine when he has a punch bag of a fighter standing right in front of him like Miller. But his attacks are predictable, his jab is one dimensional as there's no variety to it, which is why the slower Joyce easily out jabbed him with his more versatile jab. He has no head movement, his mobility is poor, he doesn't know how to counter punch, which when all combined means he doesn't know how to fight off the back foot.

    Yes he has size, strength, power and solid fundamentals but you need more than that to compete at the top level. Right now with his skills he's another Danny Williams level British fighter. He's not even the even top 4 in the UK and he's only that high because Chisora is probably too old and shop worn now to be favoured above him but he'd have his hands full even with the current Chisora.

    Once he steps up a level again he will no doubt lose. I'm not sure he'd beat Ajagba let alone Sanchez. In fact that's basically who is is a Brit Ajagba before Ajagba improved in recent fights and look what Sanchez did to Ajagba.
     
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  11. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'll be rooting for Dubois but I think Sanchez wins this.
     
  12. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Typically, yes... But I can think of a particular 5 year champion who only had two of those :lol:

    Quite possibly - Millers a good gatekeeper level win, not amazing but a solid one for the resume.

    At contender level I suspect he loses again, too.

    But...

    These guys are nowhere near proven enough to be considered contender level.

    And neither has beaten anyone nearly as good as Dubois's best win... Maybe they could, maybe they will at some stage - but until we see them in there with better fighters, I'm hesitant to back them over someone much more proven than they are.

    It's easy to look good against dross.
     
  13. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Sanchez is a vastly better boxer than Big Juicy Miller. Not saying much I know.
     
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  14. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    He looks vastly better.

    Is he as effective?

    I don't think we know, yet.
     
  15. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm not sure Miller even when he was so filled with PED's he rattled when he walked was even Gatekeeper level. Just look at his record, his notable wins don't even prove he's a gatekeeper.

    Dinu, was undefeated but went onto be stopped by Pulev, Lerena, Dubois and Clarke. Suffice to say Dinu was journeymen level.

    Adamek was 41 and clearly shot to pieces.

    Duhaupas went 12 rounds with Miller. Duhaupas would go on to lose to Yoka in 1 and even in his prime was at best a gatekeeper and at 37 by the time he fought Miller was again a journeymen.

    Wach always sucked and was 37 and would lose his next fight to Szpilka, so again Miller beat a journeymen.

    Washington at his best was never even gatekeeper level and went 8 rounds with Miller which isn't great considering Kownacki stopped him in 2 and Kownacki again journeymen level

    Hearn did a good job of matching Miller up with opponents with name recognition but Miller never beat anyone good enough to suggest he was gatekeeper level and the version that Dubois faced sucked even more than Miller did in his prime and was about 35lbs above his best weight. So quite frankly I don't rate Dubois resume at all. Is it better than Sanchez's and Ajagba's yes, but not by much and I just see more flaws in Dubois that I do Sanchez.
     
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