Jalolov vs Luis Ortiz

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by velagod, Jan 17, 2024.


  1. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

    3,625
    6,346
    May 6, 2021
    100%

    And a big part of that is to build his name so he can claim decent cuts... For now he has very limited name recognition (as well as limited achievements) - as you say, fighting Ortiz makes sense in that context, even if he's an ancient shell of a fighter who was overhyped and under proven.
     
  2. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,789
    2,597
    May 11, 2023
    I think people should leave Ortiz alone at this point, he’s a literally dinosaur.
     
  3. ShodanAI

    ShodanAI New Member banned Full Member

    34
    8
    Jan 17, 2024
    Sine Ortiz lost to Wilder, and Wilder aint even a contender after being exposed to Parker, I think it is easy win for a Jalolov who won everything there is to win at amateurs. Also guy is towering over Ortiz while being younger, faster and more powerfull. No chance.
     
    Mitch87 likes this.
  4. LegsAreShaky

    LegsAreShaky Member Full Member

    256
    225
    Nov 2, 2023
    From a name value perspective, big step up. Ortiz clearly can still punch based on the Martin fight, but durability is a big issue. The win would also be marred somewhat based on the fact we know he’s probably the same age as James Toney …
     
    piprules likes this.
  5. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,558
    5,457
    Jul 29, 2018
    Ortiz was always extremely overrated due to a single win over another overrated boxer in Jennings.

    Ortiz went life and death with eve Charles Martin and was dropped twice.

    Jalolov makes easy work of Ortiz. After the hat hopefully they feed Wilder to Jalolov for another easy win for Jalolov.
     
  6. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

    29,548
    14,138
    Apr 4, 2012
    I bet Bakole would fight him for a Saud payday. Ortiz is still top 15-20 but will be knocked out here.
     
    Boxingfan2 likes this.
  7. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    17,005
    10,455
    Jun 5, 2010
    Wilder shattered Ortiz's durability, you can tell this by the fact he nearly got Humpty Dumpt-ied against Martin and Fat Andy.

    Ortiz should retire.................
     
  8. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,846
    2,351
    Jun 7, 2015
    To be fair he's in his mid 40s and handled Martin better than Jared Anderson did.
     
    piprules and Ice8Cold like this.
  9. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    14,002
    6,960
    Sep 5, 2010
    I heard Moses is putting down 50 on Luis, thinks he still got it. Peter ain't too sure though.
     
    catchwtboxing likes this.
  10. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    23,718
    3,921
    Jun 13, 2012
    Jalalov should hire Anatoly Lomachenko as his trainer. Look what he did with his son and Usyk.
     
  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    78,409
    127,463
    Jul 21, 2009
    Big step up albeit Ortiz is older than Jalolov's grandfather's grandfather. Jalolov can really crack and Ortiz cannot take a pop on the whiskers so he should KO the old man.
     
  12. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,225
    2,254
    Oct 9, 2022
    Mitch quotes:

    July 2018

    Mitch: Post-Wilder 1 Luis Ortiz > Whyte and Parker.

    August 2018, 9 and 10 switched in October 2018

    Wilder was Mitch's 2nd top heavyweight on resume after AJ KO'd Povetkin.

    January 2021

    Mitch: 2016 Martin > 2017 Takam

    Hammer was also a "notable win" for Ortiz according to Mitch.

    Ortiz was ranked by Ring, PBO, TBRB etc. for about 7 years. Prior to 2019 his performances against mutual opponents were always better than those of Pulev, Joyce, Parker, Whyte and Chisora in terms of power, pointfighting and defence.
     
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2024
  13. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,225
    2,254
    Oct 9, 2022
    Mitch rated 2016 Martin as better than Takam ever was in 2021. It was only after 42+ 2 KO defeat Ortiz got off the canvas twice (something that should be lauded given the context) to KO Martin that Martin tumbled down Mitch's rankings.
     
  14. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Still raging that we didnt see Bowe V Lewis Full Member

    1,961
    2,849
    Jan 1, 2024
    I don't know how Ortiz hasn't retired yet.

    Jalolov would be way to quick for him in addition to Ortiz probably losing all his punch resistance. A shame as Ortiz was genuinely a very dangerous fighter in his best days almost a decade ago, I think he would have beaten Ruiz, Whyte, Joyce and so on at the time.
     
  15. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,558
    5,457
    Jul 29, 2018
    Hindsight.
    Martin lost to Kownacki and Takam has beaten Yoka since.

    Ratings change based on performances as they should do.
     
    Manning and fencik45 like this.