Roy Jones Jr. vs. Artur Beterbiev at 175.

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  1. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    got proof, i just googled it and it said he never failed one.
     
  2. alakran

    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In his peak prime for prime no man should be an overwhelming favorite against RJJ.
     
  3. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're delusional if you think Beterbiev is still in his prime. I also like how the minute Roy got stopped, he is suddenly shot to pieces.

    Another thing, Beterbiev got dropped but got up against Callum Johnson, who can punch. Most of the time, when Jones got dropped he didn't get up.
     
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  4. Eclipse

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    So because prime Roy got dropped once, that means he can't go the distance with Beterbiev? The donkey IQ level reasoning here is mind blowing.
     
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    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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  6. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nothing. Because no one can finish Beterbiev but RJJ can be finished.

    If Del Valle was able to land on Prime RJJ, Beterbiev would put him in a coma whereas Roy wouldn't have the ability to stop AB.

    AB by brutal stoppage. Wrong matchup for Roy.
     
  7. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your logic is quite faulty there, Del Valle didnt stop Roy though, did he?
    RJJ may have still been a phenom in the early 2000s but imo he had been slowing down since 2000, they were saying it as far back as 2001 in his fight against Julio Gonzalez on the Friday night fights News segment by Max kellerman how roy is spending more time on the ropes and his legs are slowing down.

    If you REALLY watched all of his fights and paid attention, you would have seen that he was actually hit clean by guys like James Toney who landed with no visible effect and even John Ruiz, Clinton Woods, Tarver in the first fight just off the top of my head. Montell Griffin, although not a huge puncher landed clean several times, shouldering him off and nailing him when he didnt see it coming. Nothing happened
    Roys chin went and then it was gone. Nobody knows how good it was in his prime but it wasnt always glass like some people believe.
    If he really had had a glass jaw all of his career surely that idea would have been out there before Tarver. I havent even heard an amateur or sparring rumor about a glass jaw from before then
     
  8. Eclipse

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    Tarver caught him with a perfect bomb it would have put anyone out. I think his chin was gone from that point along with his mental strength and we saw that in the Johnson fight when he was a shell of himself and spent the whole fight getting battered on the ropes by a Journeyman before getting knocked out by a guy with no power.
     
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  9. steviebruno

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    Maybe his chin doesn't turn to glass if he doesn't starve his way back down to 175? Guess we'll never know, but I don't think Tarver and Johnson one-shot ultra SSJ Roy from the Ruiz fight.

    Byrd was a pretty durable small heavyweight and we see what happened to him when he tried to move down...
     
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  10. TysonFurry

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    Yeah no. Beterbiev is not some sort of god, he can be KOed. The question for me is if he can land consistently enough to KO RJJ. Beterbiev just hasn't proved himself to be that caliber yet. Let him fight Bivol first.
     
  11. TysonFurry

    TysonFurry New Member Full Member

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    I think RJJ would probably out box him but AB always has a punchers chance. RJJ was just an athletic freak in his prime and Beterbiev has never dealt with anything of his that level before. Beterbiev could KO him if he caught him and landed a combination but I doubt he would catch RJJ enough to do that. The post heavyweight Roy get's knocked out though.
     
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  12. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tarver was a pretty good puncher at LHW who went on to heavyweight steroids of course but still he could crack.
     
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  13. Eclipse

    Eclipse Member banned Full Member

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    What a ridiculous claim to make lol.
     
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  14. drenlou

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  15. Joe.Boxer

    Joe.Boxer Chinchecker Full Member

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    Noob alert.