Why Fury will beat Usyk

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  1. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You might as well just give your money away!
     
  2. FartWristedBum

    FartWristedBum I walk this Earth like a bum Full Member

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    Well, if I had to rely on anything, to win a boxing match, superior boxing would probably be close to the top of my list.
     
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  3. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Possibly. At this point though it's not just about absolute weight but weight composition and distribution. Fury looked at his best in the second Wilder fight where he was 273lbs but looked solid and muscular. Since then he's fluctuated in weight but generally looked a lot worse physique- and performance-wise, with visibly less muscle definition in the chest and arms and a lot more fat around the beltline. If he does come in lighter I hope it doesn't compromise his strength or physicality above any speed or stamina benefits it might give him, as despite my dislike of him in recent years I want to see the best version on fight night.
     
  4. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    To me this is the most intriguing match up for HW division in some time.
    Usyk is always in shape and is never slacking off between fights.

    Fury is a big bully and will use his size on the smaller man all night long.

    I can’t see Usyk stopping Fury but I can imagine either corner tossing in the towel late in the championship rounds to save one of these men.

    I can’t pick and I also DKSAB
     
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  5. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Just look at the small of his back these days—He has an extra arse on him :D
     
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  6. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Absolutely, but not lugging around that spare tire around the waist that he's had for his last four fights will help with that.
     
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  7. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thats the problem with getting fat and cutting down, you lose muscle cutting and eventually you end up the same weight with less muscle than you had before compared to if you had built yourself up properly and then cut some trim.

    Happened to Duran too.
    Duran looked like he had less muscle in some of his fights at 168 than he had at 147.
     
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  8. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    We hear this all the time but I’ve watched bodybuilders cut prior to a show and they never lose muscle but then again they are not a fat slob like Fury…So who knows
     
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  9. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I actually picked Ruiz to beat Roy, which probably doesn't come as much of a surprise to anyone familiar with my track record. :lol:
    But yeah, I was expecting Ruiz to maul him with his jab'n'grab style, but that never came into play. Beyond that, Ruiz for whatever reason, seemed to actually WANT to box agaist guys like Roy and Toney, which is rather baffling.

    All of that said, I still cannot imagine a Nady-like performance from whoever the ref is on fight night.
     
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  10. Rumsfeld

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    If I recall correctly, Big George made similar remarks about Riddick Bowe in his rematch with Golota. That he cut too much weight worrying about hitting some specific number on the scale, which was to his detriment.
     
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  11. Kev2k83

    Kev2k83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well I wanted to put money on usyk winging at least five times about low blows but it wasn't being offered hohoho.
     
  12. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Cause they have very little fat, and mostly get the water out + they are on tons of s**** steroids.
    Not that most Boxers aren't, but you get the point.
    And Fury for certain will be eating a lot of wild boar tes**** for this fight no doubt in that.
     
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  13. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yup riddick Bowe ended up looking scrawny, not ripped in the Golota rematch after yoyoing in weight too often.

    Ali also looked feeble against Holmes when he tried to get back to his prime weight. Toney looked horrible when he came back to cruiserweight against Lebedev.

    Obviously PEDs shift the equation in how much muscle you can keep on a diet, but if youre being tested regularly as a previous offender like Fury probably is, and have bad genetics, a bad diet and discipline as well + over the age of 30 you'll end up a weak, skinnyfat mess if you try to get in shape in 8 weeks after pigging out at the buffet for months.

    Infact i bet thats what happened to Ruiz in the Arreola fight.

    The fact that Duran achieved what he did against Barkley after looking with that body, looking like a melted popsicle in his keep-busy fights above 160, just tells me hes the most skilled and talented fighter ive ever seen bar none.

    For the record i believe fury has been clean since the comeback. His body just looks so much worse even when he gets below 260. Not just is he way flabbier which could be due to loose skin, he has had basically no size or definition to his upper body compared to the cunningham fight for example.
     
  14. fruitandnutcase

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    All of these predictions are an extreme shot in the dark. There's nothing wrong with building an educated prediction (it's part of the fun of being a boxing fan) but this matchup is one of those fights where we simply have no idea until the first bell rings - and I believe within the first 30 seconds we'll see the basic pattern of the fight. It's one of those fights where everything hinges on how two very unique and polished styles gel with each other

    Ultimately, this fight boils down to literally two things:
    1. Can Fury deal with Usyk's coordination and activity/can Usyk deal with Fury's dimensions and awkwardness
    2. In the event Fury can't deal with Usyk/in the event Usyk can't deal with Fury, can they dig deep and come from behind

    That's basically it. All of this talk about Fury going through Usyk like a bulldozer or Usyk boxing Fury's head off, or combing through people's records and performances, it's just eh. I think Spence won R1 against Bud, but by R2 we knew who would win. We knew who would win, 20 seconds into the Beterbiev-Smith fight when Smith shelled up

    In the face of the evidence.......... Fury decision, maybe? A comfy 116-112?

    I/we have no idea. But I do think one fighter will show the other levels very quickly on

    It's going to be fascinating. Potentially painful and boring, but fascinating

    Will the Saudis rob Usyk? Maybe, but keep in mind the scoring for Wilder-Parker was extremely fair, when AJ-Wilder was LITERALLY going to be announced after the fight. Because the Saudis have an endless pit of money, and because Turkey seems to be a genuine boxing fan, we might get fair scoring. Fury-AJ could still happen for second and third place of this generation besides....
     
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  15. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Usyk wins now. His punches will be too fast and short for Tyson. Tyson will try and box him and get schooled, Fury has gone away from his footwork boxing style recently.

    I see a Spence vs Crawford round 2-3 like revelation happening where everyone just sees Usyk is the much faster, better skilled guy and Fury will have no answer.
     
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