Agron Smakići vs. Tyson Luke Fury sparring incident video

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Elbow or Uppercut?

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    This is where the cut occurred, from what Frank W. called a purposeful elbow. Smakići refutes that, saying it was a clean punch.

    Idk, to me, despite the video quality being "square root of potato", it definitely seems like it could be just a left uppercut. Maybe on the follow-through you could argue for some of Smakići's forearm grinding against Fury's orbital bone area, but IMO given the location of the laceration that angle makes it unlikely that his elbow could have slid under the rim of Fury's headgear. We're talking Luke shooting on the Deathstar.

    If you're asking yourself "who the is hell Agron Smakići??" - he's a six-foot-six Croatian southpaw glass cannon. He's fought exactly two names you've heard of in the pros (Kossobutskiy and Kabayel) and both of them stopped him early.
     
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Let's leave the matters of "was it intentionally inflicted injury on Smakići's part?" and "did Fury's camp pay him to sabotage the fight and bail Fury out of having to fight Usyk?" to the threads that have been growing like bacteria in a petri dish on those subjects. Strictly speaking on what made the impact in here - knuckle pads or joint.
     
  3. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That same Smakici has a devastating left, it came in handy for Fury to get out of the fight..
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I've seen media outlets - IMO not very responsibly - report that the video "appears to back up what Warren was saying". In no way does it do that. I can't say definitively that it was a punch and not an elbow, but that is my leaning based on what my own eyes tell me. If there was maybe a shot from reverse perspective in 4k then it could settle the issue, but AFAIK there isn't. So we're stuck with this, which is less than ideal and can be called murky evidence at best.
     
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  5. miniq

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    to me clearly a clean left hook which is coming from the waist which might have followed through with an elbow. Not that it matters.

    Them leaking this ugly sparring is a bigger deal than the cut itself.

    "Good check hook"

    I see now why Wlad didn't hire Sugar Hill Steward. The check hook didn't land but the cupping forearm to grab the sparring partner did. LOL. Then Fury gets hit with the hook because he's busy trying to leave room to throw his very illegal uppercut holding the opponent's head.

    Shane's reaction alone says it all.

    Also Usyk is not getting caught and held from a position like that he will escape easily and keep boxing up a storm.
     
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  6. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    The fact that this thread made 42 minutes ago nearly tops the Google results for "Agron Smakići" says it all.
     
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  7. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    It's inconclusive to me.

    I tried cleaning up that footage with every little trick in my bag, and the resolution and quality is simply lacking.
     
  8. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    I'm inclined to believe there's a good chance that some of the conspiracy theories regarding this cut/pullout are true.
     
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  9. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    It is impossible to know with that crappy quality. We can barely distinguish the gloves from the backgroud, the pixels are the size of oregon.

    Having said that, it seems to me that it was a punch because of the way fury's head is moving. Nevertheles, I cannot be sure and I completely understand those saying that it was an elbow.

    I would like to add 2 things:
    1. In 2024 you only leak a video with such a bad quality on purpose. No device records with such a bad quality, you have to intendtionaly destroy the quality of the video to get that crap.
    2. The moment when they stop recording is as suspicious as it can be. Reminds me of that other video, which is obviously a fake

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    I would have no complain if the video had normal quality (or even just bad quality but not too bad) and the recording were stopped at a point that makes sense. But with that level of horrible quality (that cannot be achieved unless on purpose) and cutting the video right at this point.... I cannot help raising an eyebrow when I watch it.
     
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  10. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Btw, if finally it turns out to be an elbow, no-freaking-body will ever hire Agron Smakići to spar again in a pro-camp. EVER. He's done, you have to be a complete idiot to hire a guy who does that 2 weeks before your fighter's fight night.
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I mean, he was just throwing an uppercut as Fury leaned in. If his elbow happened to make contact nothing in the view that we have suggests that it was his goal to do so. It wasn't like he threw an elbow strike MMA or Muay Thai style.
     
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  12. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Yes, sure, I meant if it finally turns out to be an intentional elbow.

    Nevertheless, the quality is so bad that I cannot even tell if the elbow was intentional or not (in case of being an elbow).

    If we really want to be honest, we can't even say that this is actually the moment when the cut happens, because we can't see no cut in the video at all.
     
  13. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Say it was an accidental cut the question still remains on why they were doing heavy sparring so close to the fight date. Sparring like this always leave room for injury. The rough inside fighting could have cause a trip and twist an ankle ( an excuse Fury have used) or some other injury.

    It is just so damn coincidental and any evidence was taken with the same camera that big foot was captured on.
     
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  14. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Good thing someone had a gameboy handy to record with.
     
  15. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Turki and Fury were together today, they silenced Usyk and Klimas in Ariel Helwani's interview. Something fishy is going on. They want Usyk out of the equation, they're aiming for Fury vs AJ.
     
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