were lennox lewis losses flukes ?

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  1. Thunderstorm

    Thunderstorm Active Member Full Member

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    some say his losses were flukes but is really this true
     
  2. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think so. Both Rahman and McCall were capable of landing a big shot. And they did.
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    No. He was not defensively great and it was only a matter if time till someone got to him.

    Ruddock never landed anything because Lewis brilliantly caught him first. Lewis fought a perfect fight so never got caught vs Tua.

    But he always had a weakness vs lesser fighters as Briggs caught him and only the ropes held him
    up. So he always had a tendency to get caught vs lesser fighters.
     
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  5. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    In a sense, no, those guys won on their merits and he lost on his relatively small amount of weakness. But in another sense, he could match those guys 10 more times and plausibly win all ten decisively. So, in another sense, still no, but I understand why this is a question.
     
  6. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, the consensus is correct.
     
  7. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No if you get complacent it's your fault.
     
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  8. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    I'm a big Lewis fan, but no. They won because they made the most of their opportunities.
    Lewis showed in the rematches that he was capable of beating both McCall and Rahman. The fact he did not the first time around was because he took them both lightly. That is Lewis's fault, not theirs. He was a great fighter (top 5 heavyweight ATG for me) but complacency was one of his flaws.
     
  9. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Nope, he just got caught cold it happens. But Lennox did prove he was the better fighter by winning the rematches very convincingly. He's beaten every fighter he's ever stepped in the ring with, just wish he would have fought Vitali again.
     
  10. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.
     
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  11. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think the McCall fight was a bad stoppage. Do I think Lewis would have recovered and went on to win? My opinion, no. Do I think you should give a fighter the chance to see if he can when he beats the counts. Yes.

    Rahman fight not a fluke in any way. Rahman threw a big punch, and Lewis did not time his defense correctly. He got knocked out.
     
  12. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lightning struck twice !
     
  13. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Only special fighters can get up from devastating KO inducing punches at HW

    Ali
    Holmes
    Fury

    Lennox got tougher with age which applies to lots of heavies. Took bombs off Vitali.
     
  14. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    I don't think fluke is the correct term. Boxers are supposed to hit their opponent, they did and Lewis could not get up. Do I believe Lewis lost focus, yes. Did he pay the consequences, yes.
     
  15. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Not flukes, but very unlikely to ever happen again
    Lewis does beat either guy 99 out of 100, but they earned their wins with good punches, especially that right hand from Rahman