Aaron Pryor vs Kostya Tszyu

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  1. steviebruno

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    Based on feedback from their fighter, who had already mentally quit. Champions are usually too proud to openly quit. A good corner will discern their fighter's body language and make the right judgment.

    Tsyzu did not want to go out for round 12, so his corner stopped it.

    Then Tsyzu quit the sport, rather than fight Hatton again.

    That's two TKO losses at his best weight that he did not try to avenge, and his overall resume isn't impressive enough to skim over these unfulfilled rematches.

    I am not sure why he is so romanticized here.
     
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  2. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You know nothing about Tszyu’s resume you tit.
     
  3. steviebruno

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    TBF, he doesn't really have one...
     
  4. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thanks for proving my point you tit.
     
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  5. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    When the trainer throws the towel in the middle of a round, then it is the corner who stops the fight. But when the trainer stops the fight between rounds it's the fighter who quits, because no trainer would quit against his fighter's will unless he's dying or directly standing unconcious. That's true 99.9999% of the time, and when it is not true it is VERY obvious because the fighter wants to kill his trainer right there on the spot.

    Some trainers even have a code to quit. No trainer will make his fighter say "I quit" in the middle of a title fight and being recorded by cameras in front of millions of people.

    Tszyu just quit, that's all, and I repeat that it is not a big issue. Taking into account how his neck was reacting to the punches he was going to get permanent damage in the 12th round anyway and quitting doesnt make him better fighter or worse fighter. Hadn't he quit he would be overrated anyway.
     
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  6. Reinhardt

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    ,,,,and Pryor beat Tommy Hearns as an amateur, if amateur records matter
     
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  7. Serge

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    Thanks. That's 100% true, factual and correct

    Probably disagree with this albeit that being said, I'm definitely right yet again about Kostya beating Pryor

    True
     
  8. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd prefer you use yours for learning actual history. not trying to make hot takes about an era you know nothing about.
     
  9. Serge

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    Pryor is literally on camera cheating like crazy in his signature win and he was obviously jacked on those PEDs in many of his other fights.

    Two long distance runners running a race and one of them literally jumps in a car mid race live on TV and gets driven to the finish line robbing his opponent who, as said, was one of the nicest, most classiest fighters to ever don a pair a gloves and fought an honest, clean and honourable fight and people pretend it didn't happen and hail the cheating winner as a god and afford him a free pass for cheating and robbing his opponent of a huge part of his legacy? Un-freaking-believable! Shame on you. shame on you :shakehead:

    Kostya would knock Pryor's cheating have gloves won't travel ass smooth out


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  10. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Steve's still more or less a newbie to boxing. Anything that happened over ten years ago, he'll no nothing about.
     
  11. Babality

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    He's one of the most overrated fighters of all time. He went life and death with Arguello too. He'd likely gotten KTFO if he fought a good durable puncher cause he was susceptible to getting caught when he got wild.
     
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  12. The Cryptkeeper

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    None of that is true.

    Plenty of fights have been stopped by the corner between rounds when they have had that 60 seconds to take a closer look at their fighter. Angelo Dundee literally stopped Ali from going out for round 11 against Holmes. Ali didn't quit. His corner stopped that fight.

    Tszyu did not quit in either fight that he lost. That is a fallacy that the ignorant play over and over in their feeble minds to justify a position against that particular fighter. The genesis of this discussion was when the resident idiot said that Tszyu had "too much quit in him." Kostya Tszyu had no quit in him whatsoever. Go and have a look at his brutal war with Diosbelys Hurtado as an example. Kostya was down twice in the first round and was in all sorts of trouble against the excellent Hurtado before coming back to win by KO in the 5th. And Hurtado was a legitimate world class talent who had only one loss prior to Tszyu and that was by late stoppage to Pernell Whitaker.
     
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  13. Dangerwood84

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    Yes amateur records matter. Tszyu, World Amateur Champion, something Pryor and Hearns never achieved. Your reply is irrelevant to the original post that I replied to.
     
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  14. Pimp C

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    Pryor's style is all wrong for Tszyu.:deal: The hawk by tko.
     
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  15. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah lad Tsyzu is just straight up and down aye can't handle that American style yeah
     
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