Second career of Mike Tyson 9-5-0-2

This.

 

With all respect, Tyson's resume after returning from prison is absolute garbage, probably worse than Zhillei Zhang's or Flip Hrgovic's. Here is a summary of his fights:

Beat bum McNeeley.
Beat journeyman Buster Mathis Jr.
Beat Bruce Seldon, one of the weakest alphabet champs in history.
Beat past-it Frank Bruno, alphabet champ who was fighting for the last time.
Lost to Holyfield in a one-sided contest.
Lost to Holyfield in a one-sided contest.
NC against cruiserweight Orlin Norris.
Beat journeyman Botha who was past-it.
Beat bum Francis.
NC against Golota.
Beat bum Savarese.
Beat journeyman Nielsen who was past-it.
Lost to Lewis in a one-sided contest.
Beat bum Etienne.
Lost to bum Danny Williams.
Lost to bum Kevin McBride.

Tyson was himself past-it in several fights, but if your best win is against an alphabet champ who is fighting the last fight of his life, you cannot argue much in your favor.

 

Exactly.

There were few different careers of post-prison Mike (devided by long periods of inactivity).

Tyson was pretty good in 96-97, still very fast, extremely athletic and he actually trained hard at that time (according to Tyson's autobiography book Undisputed Truth).

In 99 he looked rusty against Botha. Norris fight was strange and weird. Fight vs Golota was the best Tyson's performance since 1997. Although he was a deep weed smoker in 2000 and became addicted to cocaine by that time.

Then there was a long break and fights vs out-of-shape Brian Nielsen (Tyson looked overweight, slower than usual and tired quickly; granted, Nielsen tired too) and Lewis.

It was quite obvious by then that he has no chance against Lennox.
It was bad performance by Mike and Tyson took a brutal beating. He seemed to gas really quickly at that time, had deep stamina issues.

Post-Lewis part of his career was unimpressive, he was stopped by Danny Williams and Kevin McBride (in his last fight Tyson looked slow, unmotivated and really lacked explosiveness even in early rounds of the fight).

 

Good summary.

Otherwise it's the usual cringe worthy attempts to make him seem like a ring wreck just to take the sting out of his losses to Holy. Going through Seldon like he was a paper screen is all of a sudden nothing, but taking seven rds, and actually losing the first, to get rid of Biggs is legendary? Not getting touched by Bruno? Nothing to write home about. Taking twice as long to beat and actually lose rounds to former heroine addict Thomas - now that's the truly invincible Tyson.

The standards are set impossible high on his every fight after Spinks to justify the narrative that he was a shadow of his former self. The fact is that Tyson looked the guy to beat before Holy took his soul. And even after that he showed flashes, like in his impressive dismantling of Golota.

 

Tyson's first career ended w the Spinks fight .. his top days as a focused monster need with the Givens/Roper/King ... his second carer , post Spinks -pre-prison was phase 2. Phase 3 was the comeback through the second Holyfield fight ... after that was the end ... a wild ride ..

 

I’ve read that there were rumblings about Tyson being upset at King regarding how long it was taking him to get another shot at the title after the Douglas loss.

The biggest star in boxing (and arguably all of sports) having 2 fights against a top contender before the scheduled Holyfield bout.

I don’t think Lennox was ready in 91’. I don’t know about Bowe either.

In regards to people saying he lacked heart, I do think he was kind of a front runner. He would take his beatings like a champion (Douglas, Holyfield 1, Lewis) but had a tendency to get frustrated and impatient.

 

Something a smart man noted was that Tyson had begun to bend at the waist a lot more as his career progressed post prison.

 

Tysons second career was pretty poor for two reasons: he himself had degraded in all categories except power which was the only thing that got better and two, his competition greatly stepped up their game. The 90's had nothing but killers around every corner, so many of which that nobody was able to hold the title for long, other than Lewis, before a new guy showed up to take it.

Its still fascinating though to wonder what would 80's Mike had been like if he could've been transported to the 90's.

 

We're the Holyfield fights really one sided? I remember reading that Holyfield said he didn't get why Mike bit him as he was doing well in the fight.

 

Wait - Mark is this universe a spiral and you’ve come passing through again oh sacred Ant?

 

Tyson z lat 80. miał rekordy 37-0 i 10-0 w walkach o tytuł
Tyson z lat 90. ma bilans 9-3 i 2-3 w walkach o tytuł. Tyson w pierwszej dekadzie XXI wieku miał bilans 4-3 i 0-1 w walkach o tytuł. To tyle, jeśli chodzi o statystyki. Różnica sportowa jest niewyrażalna dla laika, ale wyraźna dla eksperta. Tyson stopniowo używa coraz mniej kombinacji, jest gorszy w defensywie, bardziej statyczny, wyraźnie gorszy cardio i wyczucie czasu, a przede wszystkim mentalność. Tyson w latach 80. jest prawdopodobnie jednym z ostrzeżeń. W latach 90. uderza w łokcie, gryzie, trzyma się za ręce... ma NC z Norrisem i Gołotą, atakuje po przerwie Savarese, gryzie Holyfielda, atakuje Lennoxa Lewisa na konferencji prasowej, łamie rękę Fransowi Bothie... na koniec przegrywa wcześnie z dwoma twoimi pieniędzmi. Koniec Tysona jest żałosny i w niczym nie przypomina zawodnika, którym był w 1987 roku, ale wszyscy oceniają go ze względu na koniec kariery i zapominają, jak dobry był w latach 80., posługując się popularnym sloganem – w lidze nie było bokserów HW. Lata 80

 

Still shocked he lost to guys like Williams and McBride.

 

Golota was really a win. When a fighter hits a guy so hard the guy refuses to come out of his corner, that's a win.

And Mike was disqualified for being stoned during the fight. Like what would have HELPED him? If anything it would hurt his timing and reactions.

 

Dear random Polish dude (who is actually a great poster if you run his posts through google translate) -- might I suggest typing out your posts, then using Google translate to translate them to english, then posting them? (If you're not aware, your posts show up in Polish not in English). You're a great poster though, welcome brother.

I agree with what you're saying here. He gradually declined, started fouling, became crazy during faceoffs, etc. Sad end to a career really.