Anthony Joshua vs. Francis Ngannou •

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MixedMartialLaw, Jan 5, 2024.


Naganou-Joshua, who wins?

  1. Naganou KO

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  2. Joshua KO

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  1. Shootlow

    Shootlow Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah featherfisted AJ lol.... he certainly does have one punch ko power to suggest otherwise is plain silly. He doesnt walk around the ring waiting to load up with the one punch hes in a fight but he does have that power. So he's been hurt and one guy has stopped him on his feet. Boxers get hurt occasionally it happens when 16/17/18 stone trained men punch each other in the head it doesn't mean he has no chin. Ruiz got a deserved win and he was beaten by a better man in Usyk, he's beaten everyone else and mostly by stoppages. Go look at Ngannous stoppages he's had a couple of fights where he's caught someone clean and dropped them. Don't fall for the marketing he's getting filled in next week.
     
  2. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    It might only be 1” reach advantage but I imagine it’s an advantage that Joshua isn’t accustomed to at any rate.
     
  3. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    AJ definitely has big power which should give us pause again to credit the whiskers of Usyk - because AJ did nail him a few times, enough to tell us that Olek has a helluva chin. Please refrain from comments re a “glass” body. Lol.
     
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  4. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    How much was Ngannou just being magnanimous though? I mean it wouldn't surprise me if it was true due solely to the fact that I can't recall Ngannou even taking any hits from seriously big hitters in MMA. I don't recall if Overeem caught him, but he'd likely be the hardest puncher if he was in full Super-Saiyan mode. Those other fighters like Dos Santos, Miocic etc would be mediocre hitters in boxing.
     
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  5. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Yes I have, but because I'm not a fool I rejected it. Have you considered the possibility that you're an old school nuthugger that has no idea of what he's talking about?
     
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  6. Pugguy

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    Yes, possible that it was credit afforded out of courtesy but Ngannou, without being full of himself or overly deferential, strikes me as a pretty straight honest guy. Just calling it as he sees it.
     
  7. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Joshua will win on points or late stoppage.
     
  8. kirk

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    What more lethal hits has ngannou taken than the ones that have dropped AJ?

    Usyk wasn't seen as any easy fight. He was only like +180 or something like that. That was seen as a competitive fight and I'm sure the bookies odds were factoring in the chance that a close decision would go to AJ.

    AJ is used to pressure. He's had plenty of high pressure fights. More than most fighters today, imo.


    That being said, yes this fight has me very worried.

    On one hand, I can see a case for AJ to do better than Fury.

    On the other hand I can see a case for him doing worse, which would mean a loss.


    Boxing has too much on the line here and I hate it.
     
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  9. Vegas Hobo

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    I seriously cant believe many are giving Ngannou a serious chance of winning. He is going to get slaughtered.

    At least that gives me a decent price for the AJ win by KO on Bet365.
     
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  10. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He arguably beat Fury, and despite his flaws I rate Fury over AJ. It's not surprising many are giving him a fair shot.
     
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  11. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joshua needs to make it a boxing match and Ngannou needs to make the fight into a brawl that’s how I see it. Joshua can not afford to get into a war and maybe get hit and then let the doubts and possibly low confidence kick back in and make himself hesitant and reluctant to let his hands go,likewise Ngannou can not allow Joshua to get into a boxing rhythm and let himself be picked off round after round and allow Joshua to build confidence as the fight progresses. For Ngannou to win this fight he has to create enough self doubt to try and make Joshua withdraw into his shell and he has to do this early in the fight,the longer this fight goes it favours Joshua,for Joshua to win he needs to just stick to his better boxing ability and avoid engaging with Ngannou .
     
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  12. Usyk is the best

    Usyk is the best Active Member Full Member

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    Unlike Fury, who used to drink a lot, take drugs, not train for months and baloon like a fat pig, AJ is completely different.

    AJ has always had professional attitude, even in his amateur days. Always in shape, always a hard worker who doesn't have bad habits that can affect his performances in the ring.

    AJ is a seasoned fighter, a two-time world champion with 30 pro fights in a 10-year long career.

    Fury's performance vs Ngannou was awful but his fans could at least say he wasn't prepared (and to be honest Fury was the fattest in his career, and he was out of shape so many times previously that it won't surprise anyone). And Fury obviously underestimated Ngannou (as there weren't even footage of Ngannou sparring sessions before their fight).

    AJ not only has completely different attitude going into this fight, he also knows where Ngannou is dangerous and what to expect from him.

    With that being said, and the fact that AJ is way harder puncher than Fury, I expect him to stop Ngannou inside 7 rounds and probably quicker.

    I'd be shocked if Ngannou wins or lasts the distance against AJ.
     
  13. KO_King

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    I completely agree.
    I respect everyone's view - and fights where people disagree about the winner are.good for the sport.
    However, I really don't get this one. I think a.declining Fury just turned up against Francis expecting to cruise and nearly paid the price for his hubris. But I fully expect a disclipined and motivated AJ to win fairly comfortably.
     
  14. BlackDog

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    I dont like idea of this fight. There is lot to loose here and imo not soo much to win. I think they focus too much to show everyone that Anthony is now better than Fury and can done better what Fury done with problems.

    That's not best idea. Chasing dude who already got bigger goal right now.

    Win with Francis give Joshua nothing. Almost all expect that and its normal- we got MMA fighter, novice in boxing vs 2 time past world champion.

    All problems in that fight just make Joshua got bad press.

    Hope Joshua will be sharp like in last fight and got 100% focus and win this in great fashion.

    Boxing dont need another cathastrophy after Fury terrible performance.
    I have nothing against Ngannou but his place at today Hw is just because he is money fight for best fighter.
    I dont like it because we have no idea if he will be able to beat other top 20 dudes but he just get second best possible fight for... Nothing.

    I would prefer see him vs Otto Wallin, Ruiz, Chisora or Joyce. If he win- then ok. He deserve more.
    Now he is only oberhyped because Fury is lazy fu... and cant even look proper on fight like that.

    Cross finger for AJ. If he lose boxing will be dead.
     
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  15. humbug

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    AJ is carrying the entire sport of boxing on his back. Bearing in mind Fury vs Ngannou was a measuring stick.

    If Anthony Joshua gets crushed by Francis Ngannou the consequences is this (deservedly so):

    - The entire sport of boxing will take a pay cut

    - Every casual boxing fan will turn there back on the sport because Anthony Joshua is a gold medalist and a two time heavyweight world champion.

    - Why bother with boxing if an ex UFC heavyweight champion destroys the most accomplished boxing champion of the past 10 years.

    As a casual fan.
     
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