Which great fighters to all intents and purposes ducked no one?

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  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    ...or came closest to ducking no one?

    I define "ducking" not just doing your utmost to avoid fighting someone in your weight class who could beat you, but also not actively trying to make a fight against the best out there in your weight-class possible, within reason.


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    In other words..."thou shalt not kill; but need not strive officiously to keep alive" does NOT apply here. (crimes of commission are considered as bad as acts of omission)
     
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Langford and Hollyfield spring to mind.

    Bulrey, obviously.

    But of these three Hollyfield was the only one in a powerful position that didn't duck.
     
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  3. K0NPHL1C7

    K0NPHL1C7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    John Ruiz
     
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    theHawtness Active Member Full Member

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    manny 'pacman' pacquiao. he doesn't duck anyone. in all the interviews, he always stated that he wants marquez. its marquez who ducks.
     
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  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I agree - he hasn't ducked a soul in purer terms.

    But for the purposes of this thread, i think he's exclueded - more could have been made to make Marquez II happen.
     
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  6. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    In purer terms? I thought these terms were as pure as they could possibly be!:lol:
     
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  7. bill poster

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    Nigel Benn
     
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  8. PJ

    PJ Well-Known Member Full Member

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  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Well to "duck" means to opt out for whatever reason.

    You've specified that the fighter named should do everything to make fights with the best out there, which is not the same for me.
     
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  10. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    crimes of commision are as bad as acts of omision in this case, I feel...
     
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  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I'm using the definition in the thread; to do your best to make fights with the best in your division.


    And as i've explained quite a bit there was a LOT of money availiable for a SRR-Burley fight. Career best paydays for both. The fights were not made, in my opinion, because Sugar did not expect to win these fights.

    Your surmise that Burley was not a crowd pleaser is not accurate either; at welterweight he was nothing less than a heavy banger who aggressivley persued his opponents in the early rounds.
     
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  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Sure, i'm not cricising the thread topic, just explaining it as I see it.
     
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  13. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Some will say he ducked Forrest and Winky Wright. I don't know about Forrest, but both Oscar and Arum and said that they weren't interested in a fight with Winky.
     
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  14. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Avoided Tszyu also...
     
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  15. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How about duran? With the only caveat being why he didnt rematch buchanan?
     
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