If Rocky fought Charles, Louis, and Walcott in their primes does it go the same way?

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  1. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Please discuss.Thank you.
     
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    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Prime Louis knocks him unconscious or carves his face into steak tartare and gets a stoppage.

    He beats prime Charles and Walcott.
     
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  3. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Marciano gets knocked out by a prime Louis, he's waaaay to easy to hit for a guy like the brown bomber.
     
  4. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    Loses to Louis.
    Splits series with Walcott and Charles.
     
  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Louis whips him
     
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    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Louis cooks him like a BBQ, the others split a series with him
     
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    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Louis beats all 3.
     
  8. SwarmingSlugger

    SwarmingSlugger Active Member Full Member

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    I tend to agree however Louis did say he never liked to be crowded so I give Rocky a shot 25-30% or so, but I think Louis stops him late. Marciano beats Charles and Walcott prime or no prime.
     
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  9. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Marciano loses to Louis but,as a couple have already mentioned,splits a series with JJWQ and Ezzard.
     
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  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I would give both Joe Louis and Ezzard Charles very real chances at beating Rocky Marciano when at their respective bests. Joe Walcott I can’t say for sure. His prime is very hard to pinpoint.
     
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  11. JFK

    JFK The greatest light heavyweight to have ever lived Full Member

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    All three I would favour against Marciano (especially Louis). They won't win 10/10 times, Rocky was just so unpredictable and always had that puncher's chance, but they would definitely win more often than not.
     
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    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    Louis knocked out every single crowding/swarming fighter he faced before his last fight with Marciano.
    No one likes being crowded.
     
  13. Fergy

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    Louis would be terrible for Rocky. I see him mashing Marciano s face up and belting him all over.
     
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    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They were all great, and on any given day any one would have beaten the other.

    Lot's of people putting Louis on the pedestal, and that's understandable, but let's not forget that Walcott legit beat him in the first fight, and he had his struggles against Schmeling, Conn, Buddy Baer, Galento, Braddock and Godoy.
     
  15. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    Walcott lost a controversial decision, which he had a habit of doing considering his first fight against Ray and Maxim, and then dropped another one to Layne.
    Knockdowns by themselves don't win fights. Walcott lost the first fight and was given his second chance.
    We might as well count Marciano's first wins over Charles and Lastarza as robberies in that case.

    Bringing up the others doesn't really help your case because all these guys were between 23-32 years old, all much closer to their peaks than any of the best guys on Marciano's resume.