Tyson's power vs. Foreman's power.

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  1. VG_Addict

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    Tyson and Foreman are usually regarded among the hardest punchers of all time. There have been debates over who was the harder puncher between them, with Holyfield, the only fighter to have fought both of them saying that Foreman hit harder.

    Personally, I think their punching power was too different to really say who hit harder. If I were to compare their punching power, I would compare them to trains. Tyson was like a bullet train; his punches were so fast you didn't even have time to react to them, or even process what was happening. One second, you're standing in front of him, and the next second, you're looking up at the lights.

    Foreman, on the other hand, was like one of those old steam locomotives: big, powerful, and slow. You see the punches coming, but you're so paralyzed by fear that you can't move, and can only think about every decision you've ever made in your life until the inevitable happens.

    With that in mind, I don't know who hit harder, but I do know I'd rather be hit by Tyson than Foreman. Tyson's punches hurt, but at least it's over quickly. Foreman bludgeons you to death over the course of a fight. To use another analogy, it's like choosing whether you'd rather be shot or beaten to death with a hammer.

    What do you think? Who do you think hit harder? How is their power different?
     
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    I reckon Foremans punches had more of a clubbing effect & Tyson's punches had more of a whip / snap effect. As for who had more power I'd say Foreman. If I was forced to fight one of them I'd rather face Tyson frankly, Foreman would scare the crap out of me.
     
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    I’ve seen them both pound the heavy bag. Foreman hit harder comfortably and Tyson himself admits it.

    Tyson was faster and more dynamic but for raw power Foreman was freakish.
     
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    Foreman could often drop an opponent from a standstill. Genetics.
     
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    Tyson himself says that Foreman hit harder because he's simply a bigger dude. Tyson's greatness wasn't simply due to punching hard. Anybody that thinks this needs to realise they DKSAB,
     
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    Foreman briefly lifted Frazier off the ground from an uppercut. He hit freakishly hard.
     
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    I was just referring to his uppercuts. Lethal and landed without torsion of his torso, see even with Cooney.
     
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    Foreman by a fair share. He did some scary stuff with a nonchalant disregard for body mechanics.
     
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    His punches were powerful because very fast. By now it's not a secret
     
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    George Foreman! He could seriously hurt a somebody with an arm punch that seemed to have nothing on it. My Grandfather met him once, during Big George's second career. George told him he felt his own punches all the way down to the bottoms of his feet. Mike Tyson was faster and hit plenty hard, himself, but I believe George Foreman hit harder.
     
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    Not a fun choice to make either way . I wouldn’t even want to fight Michael Carbajal who was HALF my size let alone one of those guys
     
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    Worth noting that Tyson still really hurt guys long after his speed had left him. He proved it wasn’t just the swiftness of his shots. The right he turned Holmes into a falling tree with was also more of a loaded up shot than a lightning strike.

    I’d still pick Foreman confidently, but speed or no speed, Tyson could hit.
     
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    Tyson ko1 Stewart and Savarese.

    Foreman life and death decisions with Stewart and Savarese.
     
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    Speeding Ferrari vs cruising speed semi truck. Different kinds of power and different sensation when you get hit.

    Tyson has good power, but he wasn't the hardest hitter of his own era in terms of raw power. Bruno, Ruddock, and Morrison all likely hit harder and even some common opponents said so. What helped Tyson was great hand speed, timing, accuracy, leverage, and the fact he often threw combinations not just winding up 1 big punch. He also had good footwork and foot placement to push off the ground and shift his weight into his shots.

    Foreman had almost none of these qualities. While his punching form was underrated and he could sometimes surprise you with a quick burst of speed, he was neither a brilliant technician, nor particularly fast. He did know how to use the ground for leverage, but he often relied on his sheer upper body strength and heavy hands to bludgeon his opponents into an unconscious stage. Two things Foreman had were good timing and accuracy. He would aim for the nose, temple, jaw, kidney, solar plexus, etc.

    In terms of raw power, definitely Foreman. His large frame combined with his tremendous strength make it so due to basic physics. Even without Tyson's hand speed, he is able to generate more force and he also had a dense bone structure to deliver more power. Tyson himself said Foreman hit harder, Holyfield did, etc. Looking at heavybag footage, Tyson is more impressive in terms of technique, timing, etc, but Foreman is doing more damage with each single shot.