Floyd Patterson said Rocky couldn't fight

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why is everyone talking about a knockout like it's a foregone conclusion that Marciano would easily stop Patterson? Why can't Patterson hurt or stop Marciano? He's multitudes faster, sharper, more refined and a fantastic puncher in his own right.

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    Marciano was teak tough and didn't stop coming, but he wasn't a indestructible force like a Marcos Villasana that couldn't even be buzzed. Moore, Charles and Walcott all seriously hurt or in Ezzard's case almost had Rocky out of there on facial damage.

    They fight three or four times and I bet one of them it's Patterson stopping Marciano.
     
  2. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    That's probably it. Sometimes it's best just to let a fighter fight the way they feel comfortable, as Rock s trainer more or less did.
     
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  3. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Peak vs peak Marciano takes Floyd every single solitary time although Floyd gives a good account of himself. I say that being a huge fan of Patterson and not much of a fan of Marciano although I have come to respect him enormously.

    A match where Rocky comes out of retirement in his dotage (at least for a boxer) and after having been through close to 50 wars to take on the young Patterson? There’s a very good chance IMO that doesn’t go like most people here think it would go.
     
  4. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hmm? Moore ,Charles and Walcott were all past their prime when Rocky beat them. A prime Floyd Patterson would in my opinion be the best fighter Rocky would have fought and if a on the slide Ezzard Charles could go the distance so could Floyd. I agree ,Rock would be the favorite but this is a fight Patterson could take.
     
  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    If Rocky came out of retirement, I may favor a peak Patterson.
     
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  6. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Sure, Patterson is a live underdog, but he and Charles had different styles. If Patterson had a better chin for taking ATG heavyweight power, I would more than favor Patterson. But Rocky carried his power for 15 rounds. Could Patterson avoid that suzie q for 15 rounds? If he can, Patterson by UD and a knocks Rocky down at some point. If Rocky finds his mark, Rocky by stoppage. Ingo found the mark several times against a prime Patterson. So did Roy Harris. It's not out of the question that Rocky also finds the mark.
     
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  7. Niels Probst

    Niels Probst Member banned Full Member

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    Floyd beats Rocky easily.
     
  8. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Floyd also left Ingo on the canvas twitching in one of the most brutal knockouts of all time.

    Again, a ancient Archie Moore hurt Rocky BAD. Why can't Floyd do the same?
     
  9. Niels Probst

    Niels Probst Member banned Full Member

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    Are you tired of hearing my opinions on Rocky? Well, we don't know how good Rocky really was, because he never beat a ranked, young, relatively big, strong, skilled heavyweight. Put Rocky in his prime in the ring with respectively a Razor Ruddock, with the Lyle that fought Foreman, with a Thomas or with a Joe Frazier, and Marciano loses to all of them and in a brutal way. Rocky was very effective - in beating up very small, old, past the prime heavyweights/old lightheavyweights. I like and respect Rocky, but, please, don't make him to something he clearly wasn't.
     
  10. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I can see Patterson winning one in a trilogy.

    He definitely has more of a chance than people want to admit.

    He would be far and away the best fighter Marciano faced (yes he was better than the versions of Charles, Walcott, and Moore that Marciano faced and especially better than a shot Joe Louis).
     
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  11. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Over 12 I would gladly put money down on Patterson over Marciano if I could get dog odds. 15 is a hairier proposition but could still be done, and anyone that think Floyd isn't live for a knockout with his own fantastic power is lying to themselves.
     
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  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Put Chuvalo's chin on Patterson and he beats Rocky everyday and twice on Sunday. But, Rocky would tag Patterson at some point. Roy Harris, Pete Radamacher and Ingo all landed on a prime Patterson. Rocky was the superior fighter to the aforementioned 3 and he hit AT LEAST as hard as Ingo with a much higher work rate. But, Patterson could perhaps win one in a trilogy. But if Patterson was a couple years older and fought Marciano in 1954 instead of Moore in 1956, I don't think he would have been the champion. At least not at that time. He would have either had to wait until Marciano exited the scene or until he slipped enough to be taken or if someone else dethroned Marciano and then Patterson beats that person.
     
  14. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If we don’t know how good he was, then how do you confidently predict all these brutal knockouts against him?
     
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  15. Niels Probst

    Niels Probst Member banned Full Member

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    Because I see him as third rate and small... A small likeable old man beater, and thats it.