Would Ryan Garcia have beaten Devin Haney without the PEDs in his system?

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Would Ryan still have won without PEDs and coming in over weight?

  1. Yes, he still would have won

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  2. No, he surely would have lost

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  3. I believe Ryan is innocent

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  1. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    What does this have to do with Loma? I’ve never commented on Wilder Povetkin so not sure what you are getting at I was rooting for Wilder at that time.
     
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  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Because people pick sides too much for me. I'm a garcia fan I picked him to beat Haney and bet on him to beat Haney. I didn't even care that he didn't make weight other than it cost him the belt anf i was genuinely happy when he won. With that said i had to draw the line when he came up dirty. I would do the same with any fighter especially if you win while you test positive. This forum loves loma I brought him up because let's say teo tested positive after he beat loma you wouldn't have people making excuses for teo and bashing loma.
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Someone needs to explain to me how PEDs turn non-Americans into unbeatable power punching super mutants but turn into placebos upon entering in the bloodstreams of certain American fighters because I remember going way back on here in all the Roy vs Calzaghe, Roy vs Dariusz and other proven American PED cheat vs clean fighter threads and you'd never hear a goddamn peep about PEDs from the selective outrage anti-PED brigade. I'd be like ''hey guys, you do realize one of these guys is a PED cheat, right?'' and they'd be like ''crickets'' or ''but they're all at it'' or ''PEDs don't do poop''

    Remember when I told you guys I stopped playing by my rules on here long ago? You set the rules, OK you have to play by them too even when you really don't want to

    Many on here think I dislike Roy but truth is I've never disliked him at all, either as a fighter, a person or a commentator and I can't stand most commentators. I've always liked him it's those threads that tuned me into an anti-Roy troll and even then it's done in a humorous way.
     
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  4. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    But you had no problem with Floyd using an IV?
     
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  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Pbf never failed a test and was cleared
     
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  6. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think so. It was bad style matchup for Haney.
     
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  7. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Of course he was Floyd had privileges
     
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  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Of course you're bitter
     
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  9. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    To deny that Floyd had privileges is just ridiculous
     
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  10. thehook13

    thehook13 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's irrelevant
     
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  11. John Robin

    John Robin New Member Full Member

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    Interesting question… maybe he still would have won but not in the same fashion.
     
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  12. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd and Haney are privileged punks.
     
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  13. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    Facts are facts. Floyd never popped. Garcia did.

    Ones a cheat. Ones not.

    the rest is your fantasy
     
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  14. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  15. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Between the weight and PED’s there is no way to know. Haney won basically every round other than when he was knocked down, so I think it’s reasonable to think he could have.
     
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