Do you think Holyfield headbutted against tyson intentionally?

Make no butts about it.

 

Yes, I really do.

 

For sure. Unholyfield was well known for his intentional headbutts. He trained in the gym to conceal this movement to make it appear clean. The head butt buckled Tysons knees, which rarely if ever happened in Tyson's career even from flush head shots he for the most part always had his legs under him.

 

This is pretty laughable.

The first head butt on that video around 1:10 is Evander with his chin on top of Tyson’s head and Tyson lifting his head up.

On the clash of heads where Tyson is cut, Tyson is the one moving forward (with his head of course also going forward on a straight line, as usual, and up rather than with chin tucked in).

I learned early on In the gym (and later taught my guys), when heads are in proximity you need to lower your chin and give your opponent the crown of your head … what you’re trying to avoid is getting cut over the eye, which is what can cause a fight to be stopped, so you keep that part of your head out of the line of fire.

In the first fight, especially, Tyson keeps boring in on a straight line while throwing wide punches. Holyfield holds his ground rather than pulling his head back into the path of the punch, which is not only not illegal … it’s smart. Tyson is counting on the opponent pulling back into the path of those wider hooks. If he used his jab coming in (with his head thus behind it), he wouldn’t have these problems. And keeping his head up rather than also giving the crown results in him taking the contact on his face.

I don’t thik Holyfield intentionally butted but he did not (nor is he required to) duck his head out of the zone where they clash. He’s not the one moving forward most of the time, so it’s Tyson’s forward momentum that creates the head clash situation.

But let’s give Mike an excuse for every loss: He had sex in Tokyo; Holyfield butted him; Holyfield butted him; he was old and past it in his other losses. So guess what! Tyson is undefeated and never lost if we give him an asterisk, lol.

And let’s get a video of Tyson trying to break arms and throwing forearms/elbows … none of which can be by accident. Go look at the second Ruddock fight and he’s warned for low blows, head butts, hitting after the bell … you name it. He’s warned like six times in the first five rounds and of course no penalty. And don’t forget, Lennox Lewis has said that Tyson took him aside at one point and showed him a bunch of dirty tricks (aka rulebreaking aka cheating) and how to get away with them. (And that’s not to mention he’s admitted to cheating drug tests with his own baby’s urine inside a fake dick.)

Poor Mike, such a choirboy. Such a victim. Mike wanted to play and Evander got in the sandbox … and Tyson didn’t know what to do about that.

 

Is the Pope a Catholic?

 

Yes, Holyfield was a master of the deliberate accidental headbutt.

Most fighters have their share of dirty tricks. Tyson had a bunch of them. He tried (very poorly) to headbutt Ruddock in the first round of their first fight, but usually liked hitting after the bell and throwing elbows. Holyfield liked to use his head.

 

Yep.

 

Is a pig pork?

 

I think Tyson cut himself trying to headbutt Danny Williams. Looked a lot like when he tried to headbutt Holyfield.

 

There's a reason they used to call Tyson "Michael "The Fury's Dad" Tyson." But I don't pretend to understand the punctuation rules for that.

 

Holyfield was innocent!

Innocent, I tell you, just like all the times he innocently butted all those other guys.

Look at his name.

Holyfield.

HOLYfield.

If he was the sort of guy that would butt guys they wouldn't call him that. He'd be Buttfield or Headfield. Or Evan Fields. But not Holyfield.

 

yes, but it doesn't matter. He would have won against Tyson after 1995 anyway because Tyson was no longer a fighter. Tyson himself was also a dirty fighter at that time, but it was due to his mental state and not his cleverness like Holfield. Tyson bit, broke his arms, hit the gong, hit his head, he did it clumsily. In the 1980s he didn't have to do this to win 37 fights, after 1990 he had more fouls in a few fights than in his entire previous career. I have no problem with Holyfield headbutting Tyson

 

Yes, just like Tyson did. Evander just did it better, which pissed Mike off.

 

Yes he did it on purpose but so did Mike Tyson sometimes.