Why did the referee not stop the fight when Fury was out on his feet?

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  1. Tyson Fury

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  2. Olekandr Usyk

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  1. PistonHondai

    PistonHondai Member Full Member

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    Sure, you could argue that the judge should not have given Fury a standing 8 count and let Usyk KO Fury, but had the fight been stopped at rd 9, there'd be nonstop debate on whether it's an early stoppage for a HW championship fight with all the belts on the line. You stop the fight to save amateurs still on their feet from serious injury like Conor Mcgregor but not a HW champ who's still on his feet. Fury was obviously still able to continue rd 10-12.
     
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  2. splatter69

    splatter69 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Robbed us of a Mercer - Morrison ending and now we get to hear the crazy Fury fans ( I’m a fury fan but not crazy…. You know the ones I’m talking about ) say how Tyson actually won. Or how he was dominating until the lucky punch to the nose in Rd 7 etc….
     
  3. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Seriously dude.

    https://library.uaf.edu/instruction/readings/citing-documenting-resources

    The whole point is providing proof, you typing crap out isn't proof. You peers (everyone on this forum) need to see where you obtained your information from to check it for themselves.

    You could be a bullshitter for all I know.

    Anyway enough learning for today lets just agree Fury should have been stopped given there was no way he was defending himself.
     
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  4. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    No, you stated that the fight must have been stopped according to the rules. I presented a BBBofC rule that clearly states what the ref did was reasonable.
    Now where is the rule that the fight must have been stopped?
    Sure, the fight could have been stopped. That doesn´t mean it had to be because of the rules. But there is no rule saying it had to be stopped.

    And I am not writing a research paper. I wrote out the exact rule and where I got it from: The BBBofC. If that is not clear enough for a source then so be it. But unlike you, I can actually find the rule I am talking about. Not only can I find it, I am actually capable of copy and pasting it.
     
  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Cause the fix was in. Just look at that garbage scorecards.

    Ref was paid off clearly. He let so many lowblows, it's unreal. That garbage mf**** say on the belt is fine, when Usyk navel was clearly visible over the belt line.
    So based on the Boxing rules, anything below should be a lowblow. Fury hit like plenty of lowblows. Plenty of rabbit punches as well.

    But his usual dirty clinching tactics didn't work, and Usyk was stronger than this **** in the clinch and pushing him away.
     
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  6. JDub

    JDub Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah he made the right call, but I don’t think many would have argued if the fight was stopped either. Fury was rolling round that ring like a drunk sailor on shore leave. Absolutely done he was lucky he got the standing 8 count.
     
  7. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It wasn’t stopped because Fury was the house fighter for all intents and purposes. Also Fury has developed a near mythical status of being able to recover in a crisis so refs have more of an inclination to give him the benefit of the doubt.
     
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  8. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    What was the referee doing there, interfering like that? Fury was not on the canvas, hence the referee had no right stepping in. When a referee steps in like that, that's not an eight count. When a referee steps in between two fighters like that, both on their feet (as per the rules being held up by the ropes likes that counts as standing), it means he is protecting fighter A from fighter B because fighter A can't do it himself —and that's the end of the fight. When a fighter is no longer capable of defending himself, it's over. But the referee stepped in, preventing Usyk from finishing Fury, and instead of waving off the fight, he gave a standing eight count. And after that, Fury had the audacity to say he won the fight. And one of the judges blatantly gifted it to him. It's unbelievable how the boxing establishment was desperate to rob Usyk. They really did try everything.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/k8yeEC8keXs
     
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  9. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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  10. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Good, solid argument, well thought out.
     
  11. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Just rewatched the fight and the situation. This was a KO.
    Firstly if you wanna call the KD when a fighter is being held by the rope after a punch, you do it straight away. Yet Fury was literally gone and he was held by every single side of the rope multiple time, exactly 7 time, and the ref started counting on the 7th. time.
    And Fury was given a 8th count, which Fury didn't answer to. The referee stop counting at 3 for literally 2-3 seconds, to give Fury more time to recover, and then he stopped at 8, when Fury was clearly done.
    And he just stop counting, and give him like 5-6 more seconds before checking on him. This was literally a 15 seconds count, when it was 8 second standing count.

    Have f**** in mind that should also be a 10-7 round, as this was a total domination.

    Commentators knows it, I know it, You know it, and everyone at the ring side KNOWS IT !!!
     
  12. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    What you said was goofy AF. This isn't a tickling contest. Context matters, you have a lineal champion famed for his powers of recovery. He was entitled to be at the very least dropped to the canvas before being stopped. This wasn't some round after round beatdown in which he was getting brutalised.
     
  13. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Meh. All is well that ends well!
     
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  14. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    You do know that what I wrote were the actual boxing rules, right? If the referee steps in, they have to wave the fight off. It's not my problem that you don't know the rules.
     
  15. LaidOut

    LaidOut Whaaaaat? Full Member

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    This is correct. The right man won, but he should have won via KO9.