Prime Wlad vs. Usyk

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  1. Mister Pugilist

    Mister Pugilist Active Member Full Member

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    who wins in your opinion?
     
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  2. Sks476

    Sks476 Active Member Full Member

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    I would pick prime Wlad but not confidently.
     
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  4. BCS8

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    I'd lean towards Wlad simply on the basis of his tried and tested gameplan against smaller guys. Jab their heads off at long range. Create space when they come in, lengthening the time they spend in the red zone, trying to hammer them with the straight right. Then, the Dr Octopus mode, tying them up and leaning on their necks. The hassle for Usyk is the same problem he had against Fury, where creating space doesn't allow him to use his fabulous footwork.

    That said, Wlad did spar Usyk and he himself said that sparring Usyk was quite challenging due to Oleskander's speed. So though I favour Wlad its by no means certain.
     
  5. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Honestly not sure
    Maybe Wlad with excessive clinching etc

    To be honest Wlad vs Haye was better than any version of Fury and I'm a Fury fan

    May lean to Wlad, but not certain
    The only 2 heavies in recent memory I pick big favourites over usyk are Lewis and Mike Tyson

    Tyson under ronney especially would kill him imo and is usyks kryptonite
     
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  6. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But again, who did Wlad fight that had Usyk's head movement. I think because Wlad was so fundamentally good, it would be to Usyk's advantage as he'd quite handily avoid most of his jabs, that's how I'd see it. Shame Wlad never fought anyone like Usyk
     
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  7. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wlad was a great fighter, in my top 10 of ATG based on accomplishments but I wouldn't be certain he could win. Usyk has shown more than once now he can take away a bigger heavyweights size and Wlad doesn't have the uppercut that Fury used to catch him coming in.

    Usyk's footwork is simply amazing, just like Loma, he has a tremendous ability to get into and out when he likes and that combined with his head movement makes it very difficult to keep him at a distance with just a jab as he's a master of taking away a fighters lead hand.

    Wlad's at his best when he can get off first and then smother his opponents counters and prior to last nights fight, I would of said both Fury and Wlad could have kept him at range and smothered him on the inside, but that didn't happen vs Fury and now I suspect it wouldn't happen vs Wlad.

    Usyk for me is a best heavyweight since Lewis, so I think he beats Wlad as Wlad is unable to keep Usyk at range and therefore can't control the pace of the fight and like he has in the past when that has happened fades and Usyk either stops him late or wins a decision.
     
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  9. MetalLicker

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    Usyk.

    When Usyk was at Cruiser, he gave Wlad some tough sparring sessions. Johnny Nelson said that Usyk dominated the sparring session against Wlad.

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  10. bluebird

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    Usyk already tuned him up in sparring.

    Usyk
     
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  11. reckless

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    When he was 39.
     
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  13. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I see a hole in Usyk game, and that is he is somehow open to the left hooks, which is Klitschko key weapon. But Klitschko was never that great against southpaw, so NO. Usyk would won for sure.
    And have in mind this ain't prime Usyk, far from it.
    Usyk from Gassiev fight would beat Klitschko.

    Vitali Klitschko is different story though.
     
  14. SergioJ91

    SergioJ91 Active Member Full Member

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    Wlad too slow...too robotic...He would be tough though...He could also be too strong for Usyk...It's a toss up...
     
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  15. Drago

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    A differnt story, yes. But putting anything aside, he lost against a career heaviest Lewis (even if he gave him the hell of a fight leading on the score cards) and his best wins are Corrie Sanders and maybe Chris Arreola.

    Usyk is different as Byrd, and Vitali couldnt land anything significant on Byrd, nothing what did hurt him. I mean Usyk wont just standing there like Byrd, he moves so much faster from A to B like Vitali, and he can take heavy shots from Fury and AJ without going down.

    Vitali has to stop him imo, a point win would be very difficult.