Oleksandr Usyk ATG ranking

The thing is... there is no one left.

 

Your opinion is irrelevant. You are a debvted hater because apparently you don't find Usyk's personality interesting. Whenever I see that you posted in an Usyk related thread, I just scroll on over without stopping. Now your post was one of the first ones so I unfortunately read it by accident.

 

Who beat the top two guys. He became undisputed despite a weight deficit of some 40 lbs. This never happened in the last what, one hundred years?

And you say it's not enough. Ridiculous. Now I understand those stories heard from old timers that back in the seventies, many thought Ali wasn't anything special and how he could never touch Joe Louis or Marciano. Usyk has become undipsuted in CW after 16 fights, became undisputed against a guy who outweighed him by 40 lbs after just 22 fights, and he did that with a 0 loss record and almost always fighting in the backyard of his opponents.

But sure, he is not one of the outright greatest ever fighters in the history of the sport DDD

 

My opinion is no less relevant than yours. LMAO.

Get over yourself, dude.

 

When it comes to Usyk, trust me, mate, you are a laughing stock. It's not my exclusive and personal opinion that yours is irrelevant when it comes to Usyk. It was hilarious to read that you are this ardent hater because Usyk apparently has 'no personality', lol. What a child you are.

 

I am not sure you realize that I don't care what you think. How can I convince you?

 

Not replying to every word I say would be a good start, child.

 

Usyk vs Canelo @ 175
& after that Jake Paul
If Usyk beats them ALL?
TBE GOAT!

 

Nah, I will just continue to express my opinion because I see how that angers you. Feel free to scroll through it... ya know, as you usually do.

LOL.

 

Who gets to set how many fights you need to win before you can be considered for these types of things? 22 fights.. but he stepped up very early in both of his divisions rather than padding out his resume.. that is what we want.. he is one of the greatest ever.. Olympic gold medal, undisputed at CW & HW.. no dirty tactics, no PEDS, no losses, no diva, no trash... fought on the road.. in fact thinking about it hes the perfect fit for it.. i think he has every right to be considered alongside the likes of Duran, Holyfield, Jones, Hagler, Marciano etc...

 

Fair enough but that Joshua and Fury stock is sinking like a rock. Give it 20 or 30 years like we did for Holyfield and his era and we may not look back after all the years have washed away all our recency bias and think Joshua and Fury could ever hold a candle to Bowe and Lewis. This era and what we used to think about it is going to look so different with 30 years of hindsight.

 

I think that you are caught up in the moment, but I don't blame you.

 

I don't think you read my post at all.

Where did i state i don't rate Usyk as one of the best ? did you miss my comment below where i said "i rate Usyk highly P4P"

My argument was i don't rate Usyk very highly in regards to all time Heavyweight rankings because he hasn't got enough depth to his record at the weightclass which is totally fair statement.

I rate Usyk in the top 30 P4P due to his achievements and beating bigger elite fighters, but it is also fair to say he hasn't beaten anyone yet that is considered great. Unless you count Fury who i always thought was vastly overrated and certainly not a great in my eyes, but still i give Usyk alot of credit for the win because of the size difference but i don't think anything i've said above isn't true.

For example i don't rate Usyk amongst the likes of....

Greb
Ali
Duran
Mayweather
Pacquiao
Armstrong
Pep
Charles

etc.

Usyk is an ATG but he's not in the same class as the fighters above regarding resume.

 

Yeah that's true it's not Usyk's fault and i know he wouldn't shy away from fighting any great fighter, but i still don't think he has beaten anyone who is considered great in my eyes. Usyk gets rated highly is for beating bigger elite fighters and he deserves alot of credit in doing so, but i still don't consider the likes of Joshua or Fury as greats.

 

Not yet, especially when resume figures so heavily into these conversations. Historically he's already well accomplished in other talking points. I think if he walks away after Fury he's leaving his legacy on the table so to speak.