Explain to me how Joshua is the #2 HW in the World

You Fury fans are funny.
Joshua performed better against an older Klitschko.
Fury performed better against an older Usyk.
They need to fight each other.

You are too in your feelings on this one. Hoofing old posts to make yourself feel better.
Take the L and move on

 

Oh my days. Are you telling yourself Usyk is still prime at over 37 years old, or are you telling me?

Now, he's far from washed, and he's still the man in the division (and deserves his flowers) but he was already declining in Joshua 2 > Dubois > Fury.
Usyk visibly losing the ability go through the gears like he used to. Which is fair enough, he's working every moment of every round, and he isn't a young man anymore.

Plus while I think Fury did perform better (looking like he might pull it off during middle rounds), he was also badly hurt. The referee was extremely generous to Fury in round 9 with him careening around the ring, pinballing off the ropes and Usyk's fists for the final 25-30 seconds.
Heck the ref even champeroned him back to the corner arm in arm, as Fury was clearly still wobbling forward and back when he said "walk towards me" even after 20 seconds of recovery. That's wild.

 

He beat a guy who almost beat the guy who beat the guy who lost to the guy that pretty much beat the guy by almost getting by.

 

but he really did beat that guy, bye.

 

Money, corruption, lemming fans laughably susceptible to propaganda.
These were the people who believed the claims that Ruiz was a great fighter and master boxer because their hero got stopped by him.

 

Joshua and Fury have not fought, so in measuring their relative merits vis-a-vis each other, we need to use indirect means.

Common opponents:

Francis Ngannou

He went the distance with Fury, knocked him on his ass and, in the opinion of most observers, beat him.
Unfortunately for Francis, only ONE of the judges correctly scored it for him.

Then a newly confident Francis faced AJ, and was destroyed, put to sleep. Early.

Ask Francis which of AJ or Fury is better. He'll tell you.


Otto Wallin.

He took Fury the distance.
He lost but it was a very competitive bout.

If post fight appearance had been the criterion, Wallin would have got the nod.
Fury's face looked like a panty liner that hadn't been changed for a few days.

To be clear, Tyson won the fight but it was competitive.


Some time later, Wallin faced AJ.

He got KTFO'd in the fifth. Easy work.



There is little doubt, IMO, as to which of AJ or Fury would prevail if they met.


And as for the Parker nonsense, we don't need indirect means to determine which is better.
They DID fight.

10-2, 11-1, 10-2.
In favour of Aj.

Nuff said.

 

You have gone and mentioned the R word.

 

They have a few more common opponents where Fury did better that you're ignoring....

Most importantly Usyk himself. Fury would box Joshua's head off and I'm no fan of either.

 

IMO, AJ did better than Fury did against Usyk.

Fury was nearly KO'd/

Many would drop the nearly.


And AJ had a more decisive result against Wlad, which I didn't bring up as Wlad was older then, but not by much.

Whyte was younger and undefeated when AJ KO'd him

I don't believe there are any common opponents where Fury did better.


And I think the most likely result of AJ / Fury would be the bigger guy getting KO'd

 

Joshua got outclassed from start to finish, and Fury whitewashed Wlad.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I couldn't disagree more.

Joshua can't handle a talented boxer, and if Fury keeps his head on straight and doesn't act the maggot, he'd outclass him.

 

The Fury Wlad fight was one of the two or three worst fights I've watched in 59 years of watching boxing.
Very little happened during the entire fight.

Fury undoubtedly won, but it was a **** fight.

AJ got off the canvas to putt a decisive end to his fight.

That's fine.

That's what the forum is for.


IF they fight, we'll get a more decisive answer.

 

Usyk was also way better for the AJ fights. He was 34 and 35 for AJ 1 and 2. And Fury didn't want anything to do with Usyk at that time and aged him out till he is 37.5 years old.
AJ is miles better and will Ko Fraudy inside 4 rounds.

 

Well Fury lost to Usyk but Joshua still doesn't have a win over anyone decent so I still rate Fury as 2nd ahead of Joshua. But if Joshua does fight and beat Hrgovic or someone else decent then he moves ahead of Fury.

 

Actually Fury perform worst if you mute the biased commentators. And see the AI stats on punch, aggression, pressure, dominating the rounds, etc.
Fury won exactly 2 rounds clean 5 and 6. And at best you can give him 1 more round, nothing more.

AJ won his rounds clear in both fights, which were 3 rounds.
AJ wasn't dropped or stopped and saved by the referee.
AJ also fought 34 and 35 years old Usyk way closer to his best days, than Usyk being 37.5 years old, and punch stats proof that. Also Usyk movement and speed was clearly way worst compare to the 2 fights.

AJ wants to fight Fury, and Fury doesn't want to hear fighting AJ ever, this tells you the whole story.
Not even going to bring Ngannou and Wallin fights.