Which boxers ever wasted a great talent because of a terrible trainer?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by monaim, May 22, 2024.



  1. monaim

    monaim Member Full Member

    269
    210
    Dec 4, 2022
    title says it all
     
    USFBulls727 and Oddone like this.
  2. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

    5,254
    11,167
    Aug 18, 2019
    James "Buster" Douglas comes to mind, though he did put it all together one night in Tokyo.

    Buster was Six foot-four with an 83 inch reach at 231 lbs. Athletic, good balance and fluid. Most of his career was under his Father who had also boxed and trained him through his loss to Tucker.

    With the right trainer "Tokyo" Douglas might not have been an anomaly.
     
    USFBulls727 likes this.
  3. Farl Crampton

    Farl Crampton New Member Full Member

    37
    65
    Feb 14, 2022
    Kelly Pavlik comes to mind, rose to the top of 160 but never reached his full potential (in large part due to issues out of the ring, but having Jack Loew as his trainer certainly didn't help)
     
    USFBulls727 likes this.
  4. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,556
    6,933
    Oct 22, 2020
    I don't know about great talent, but I thought Atlas was a horrible match for Michael Grant.
     
    NoChin and USFBulls727 like this.
  5. NoChin

    NoChin Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,831
    3,979
    Aug 1, 2023
    Rocky Balboa - Donny Creed
    Ivan Drago - Victor Drago
    Apollo Creed - Rocky Balboa
    Micky GoldMill - Rocky Balboa

    Although Balboa did get the most out of Gunn. As did whoever trained Damian. Winning a World Title in your first fight in 10+ years straight out of the can. Exceptional.
     
    Pepsi Dioxide likes this.
  6. NoChin

    NoChin Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,831
    3,979
    Aug 1, 2023
    Guys who was that great Mexican talent training with Roach but drugs took over him? I saw him doing some great pad work and bag work. Brilliant angle changes etc.
     
  7. drenlou

    drenlou Tres Delinquentes Full Member

    69,607
    32,565
    Jan 22, 2015
    Frankie Gomez.
     
    NoChin likes this.
  8. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,554
    5,909
    May 18, 2021
    Gvodzyk - Atlas
     
  9. NoChin

    NoChin Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,831
    3,979
    Aug 1, 2023
    This content is protected
     
  10. drenlou

    drenlou Tres Delinquentes Full Member

    69,607
    32,565
    Jan 22, 2015
    He's definitely a case of wasted talent, I thought he could have won a world title if he would have stayed disciplined outside the ring.
     
    NoChin likes this.
  11. NoChin

    NoChin Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,831
    3,979
    Aug 1, 2023
    Thanks Dren. See that's how I believe a guy should hit the pads. That's perfect to me. I only saw that clip once until now, but I never forgot it. Or him.

    Brilliant.
     
    drenlou likes this.
  12. NoChin

    NoChin Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,831
    3,979
    Aug 1, 2023
    This content is protected
     
  13. NoChin

    NoChin Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,831
    3,979
    Aug 1, 2023
    Frankie Gomez on the pads is the best I've ever seen. Honestly. And that evasiveness and defence is immaculate. His movement.

    Gomez you're a prodigy son. To me you look like a World Champion.

    edited - wtf he's 21-0 but hasn't fought since 2016. Man I wish him well. I heard about his struggles and what a shame.
     
    im sparticus likes this.
  14. WhataRock

    WhataRock VIP Member Full Member

    32,881
    14,534
    Jul 29, 2004
    Nothing that really sticks out to me.

    Most “wasted” talents were their own doing.

    I think a few father sons teams that went on to long perhaps. Stunting the growth of that fighter.
    Definitely some instances of proven, established trainers being wrong for a certain fighter. Whether they didn’t mesh or they didn’t have the attributes to suit their training style.
     
    Pepsi Dioxide likes this.
  15. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,556
    6,933
    Oct 22, 2020
    Was it drugs he got into?