Fury = big, stiff robot, can't box?

i never doubted usyk would find his jaw, its always been there. this team just has the knowledge and ability to consistently get in the position to find it. that will become easier in a rematch. fury is going to bite into the feints a lot more now.

 

I think this partly came from Fury's willingness, for whatever reason, to allow Usyk the centre of the ring, and to come forward at him. It meant Usyk could pick his punches, and he's very efficient, and accurate, with his punching. I suppose Fury was hoping to get success by counter punching and by keeping Usyk where he wanted him with jabs and straight-arming (or whatever the term is), and his skill at feinting. But nobody outboxes Oleksandr Usyk (except in rounds 4-6). Credit to Fury though, he did land some cracking shots with this strategy. He just took far more because Usyk's the best boxer of the upper divisions since Lennox Lewis.

 

If memory serves me right "big stiff idiot" is the nickname Fury gave Wlad, not the nickname Fury's fans gave Anthony Joshua.

 

The other possibility is Fury knows his chin is cracked and that Usyk can throw off the backfoot, unlike Wilder who looks like a deer on ice.

 

Fury is far from robotic

 

I think the elephant in the room is that Fury is badly declined from his life of coke, booze, PEDs, obesity, and the occasional hard fight.

And no, it doesn't take anything away from Usyk, who also has the miles of over 400 combined amateur, semi-pro, and pro fights.

But Fury just can't do what he used to, which is why he outta quit.

 

Completely disagree with you, and this excuse is really bad.

If you actually look at the numbers, this was Fury best fights probably in his career. He was make to fight on a high pace from the very beginning from the first second of the fight, something he never had to suffer before.
And he throws almost a career record of Punches, close to 600 punches.
You ain't heavily on decline an throwing that many punches, which is far more than his previous bouts, and top 5 in his career. And having in mind he had to move on the backfoot constantly and took a lot of damage, this was the absolutely best Fury we have ever seen.

His speed was the same, his style was his old style, and he was moving quite well, just as always, actually way better than the Ngannou fight.
He also come in the absolutely best shape he has ever been or could be for 35 years old. Klitschko shape was better, but he threw like 300 punches in a super slow pace fight, so he wasn't better back then.

Usyk on the other hand comes in worst shape every fight since he move to HW. This is visible

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He is 221 here ripped to the bone.

He comes 223 with prolly heavy cross and jeans. So he weight 10)% less than 221 and was a lot softer. Which means he lost quality muscle and gain fat to keep on the weight.

Usyk movement just compare to his HW fights with AJ 1 and 2 and even Dubois is clearly a lot worst. He doesn't faint as much, neither he move his body so much. He literally didn't stop moving from AJ 1 and 2.
He throws significantly less punches and is visible way more tired. He barely could have walk after the fight, and after Round 5 and 6 he was exhausted hard.

He threw a bit more than 400 punches in this fight, when he was throwing 713 punches for AJ 2. And 520+ punches for AJ 1, but he didn't stop moving at all in this 2 fights. His speed, footwork, reflexes and reaction time is million time worst than they was against AJ for example.

Alongside my IT degree i have Sport Degree, as i finish Sport School in my early life with Football first and the Martial Arts. And we knew that your going to improve your attributes till a certain age, and they start decline after 31-32. But speed, reaction time, reflexes, agility is the very first one to go. Cardio/Energy is also getting worst with each year.

And being a Gigantic 6.9 with huge reach advantage, and your size is always there. Also power is the last thing to go. Actually unlike speed, and the rest, you may actually become stronger in your mid 30s.

Usyk is 38 years old, and what i see on this site is people that don't like him(not talking about), somehow is saying oh he is close to his prime, which is absolutely b.c. This is either people that have no clue seeing when fighter is declining or just hating on him.

Same people says that Mike Tyson was shot at 31-32 years old, and that Roy Jones at 35 was shot to s**** and his speed was gone.
But you see a natural CW, who fight at HW almost 38, and his style is all about speed, movement, reaction time, reflexes, cardio/energy, high output, etc, is not almost shot at 38 years old.

 

He triggers the rematch so Usyk get stripped of the IBF and not stay Undisputed. But Usyk can just retire, and should do that, and told Fury to f*** up. Usyk should stop being s**** and allow people to bully him, for him being good and honest person.
When you are good person, everyone try to take advantage of that and to make a fool of you. This is an unwritten law in the life.

Usyk gains nothing out of the rematch, and he won't have motivation even. For what he is fighting exactly in the rematch? Exactly, nothing. Everything to lose and nothing to gain. Just hang them up.

Also at 38 he will never recover properly till October and let alone do a camp as well.

 

As far as the thread goes, here how it is, as a lot of people on here are just emotional and also haven't idea what to look for.
But Fury ain't stiff, he is the definition of loose, prolly his best asset.
But his defense is overrated and always was. The only reason he didn't get hit more often prior to Usyk fight is because of his HUGE size, which has nothing to do with his defense.

The guy has so many fundamentals flows that it's unreal how people manage to miss them. And they call me fanboy ....
He gets away because of his size, nothing else.
He very often drops his right hand when he throws a f**** jab, and this is something you should never do. His left is super low, and that was never going to work against someone like Usyk.

I have said it million times on here, but people were laughing at me. AJ defense is miles better than Fury's. AJ has high guard that is very hard to penetrate. Unlike Fury's which is none with that left hand, and constantly dropping his hands when he throws punches.

That's why i always picked AJ to kill him, as Fury just can't keep his hands up. And it's not just that. He is always making plenty of mistake during his fights. It's just that his level of opposition was so low that they couldn't capitalize on them, or he gets away cause of his size.
He is lazy and that can be seen through his fights. So often he get from big shots for no other reason than him being lazy and making stupid mistakes.

But you see now his acolytes will come explain me how i know nothing, AJ fanboy, bla, bla, bla.
What you expect from people that doesn't have a clue how to score a boxing fight and get their view cloud by the showboating and commentators bias.

 

He's always been hittable if we're honest, it's why he's been down so many times in his career. He's a big target and he has lapses in concentration and also takes risks in the ring with his show boating. He's luckily blessed with tremendous powers of recovery and heart, the idea he was some elusive boxer just because he's tall and rangy is a lie, he's always been there to be hit.

Chisora in the 3rd fight landed at 31% Wallin at 38%, Wilder landed a lot less but that has more to do with Wilder's ineptitude and reliance on the KO to win him fights than Fury's defensive capabilities.

 

Among the likely reasons Fury eventually got almost knocked out. The accumulation of many successful punches weakened his remarkable ability to recuperate or recover immediately from a hard knockdown, despite Usyk not an explosive puncher like Joshua and Wilder. The grogginess and dizziness kept adding up. So the rematch could be the same. An explosive punch from the likes of Joshua, Wilder or Ngannou would send Fury down for the count for likely quicker recovery too. Likely Fury would be hit many times again in the rematch, thus repeating the accumulation.

 

What what did those punches have on them?