- Lyle got caught easily. It doesn't matter if he was able to evade for 1-2 rounds. You ignored my point where even Ali felt he couldn't dance away from Foreman and felt he had to be up against the ropes. Fury isn't Ali. - Schwarz is a third rater. If Fury tried the same head movement vs Foreman, George would nail him with a big uppercut and end the fight there. The fancy moves work on third raters, not on elite guys. - Wilder has a fast right hand. Foreman's right is slightly slower but far more versatile. He can throw it straight, loop it around Fury's guard, uppercut with it. He also has a left. Fury got hit more than Joshua vs the same opponent. Fury has good defensive skills but he has always been very hittable due to his size. And that will not change vs George.
Foreman hit too hard and was a great finisher. Fury gets bounced off the canvas multiple times, out in 4.
It matters because it proves Foreman's footwork is nothing special. Clearly Fury is better than Ali because I've never seen him stuck on the ropes eating punches all night. This actually proves that Foreman's punching power isn't that impressive; he couldn't put away a small heavyweight that let him tee off on him. miss even worse because he's even slower than Schwartz? In other news, a bicycle is "slightly slower" than a car Fury trained about 5 minutes for that fight. We are comparing prime versions, as Classic never tires of telling me. So you can throw the Ngannou fight into the trash. LOOOL Foreman's defence is his chin. If a midget like Lyle had him rocked, Fury will wreck him.
we will agree to disagree. However, if we are going to throw the Nganou fight out of the window, lets throw the Lyle one as well since George was coming off a 15 month layoff. And Fury isn't 20% of the fighter Ali is.
Fury being better than Ali is perplexing. Fury has 3 quality wins in his career: one over Wlad and two over Wilder. Throw in the first Chisora win and Wallin if we are being charitable. That's 5. Ali defeated, Foreman, Liston x 2, Frazier x 2, Norton x 1, Lyle, Shavers, Quarry, Bonavena and Bugner. Ali's resume is ten times better.
That wasn't why he lost. How you supposedly watched that fight and came to that conclusion is genuinely shocking. First Vitali is a better inside fighter than Frazier, and now this.
Sure. You can watch Foreman plodding after Young in this one too. Tell me again about the ATG footwork: This content is protected Opinion
Meanwhile you're making the case that Foreman trapped Ali on the ropes with his footwork. If that's the case then Fury's footwork is levels above Ali's because Foreman's footwork is methodical at best.
Foreman and Lyle were actually the same height and Foreman on the night weighed a whopping 6 pounds more. In his previous fight he actually came in 6 pounds lighter against Ali. He was hella lucky he put on those 6 pounds let it be said.
Then it makes it all the more amazing that your takeaway is that Lyle lost solely because he was "smaller" than Foreman by a gargantuan 6 lbs. Right. Apparently if Lyle added say another 6 lbs to even the odds, and did a few hundred extra pushups in training camp to have the strength advantage, he would've won for sure...! That was the only reason he lost, he just didn't weigh enough! Can't believe his trainer failed to account for such a simple factor.
