James Toney vs Usyk at cruiserweight

I just don't think Toney was active enough to win this. Usyk would use his variety of angles and punches to good effect and, while Lights Out would certainly make Usyk miss more than usual, he just wouldn't throw enough punches to win a decision. I have Usyk nine rounds to three.

 

I think Usyk is a bad style match up for Toney movement/angles vs a guy that likes to sit in the pocket and counter punch.

Toney would have to chase and whilst he did beat some very good Southpaws in Nunn, Johnson, Jirov, I think Usyk wins a close decision.

 

I said this like a year or 2 ago

 

This is ridiculous. Toney was a masterful fighter and counter-puncher back at Middleweight-Light Heavyweight, but he would not beat Usyk just because he had some success at weights he didn't belong to. This is a 6'3, 200+ pound fighter who is constantly eluvise, with a good gas tank and a high workrate that he is up against. Usyk would bother him with barrages of light punches from the outside, not giving Toney the opportunity to counterpunch, Box him in a tight circle, evade most of his offensive attempts, hit him with some hard shots and outpoint him. Usyk could very well win every round.

 

Tony would have his ***!

Now that Usyks been exposed everyone will be game planning to the body. He will be getting knocked out by B and C level fighters from countries you've never even heard.

A well schooled and discipled fighter like Toney would utterly humiliate him, destroy him to the body, and coup de grace him center of ring

 

Yes it is.

Bellew got knocked unconsious. Usyk is not a big puncher by any means. What's your point ?

Absolutely not.

Who of those southpaws, or any of Toney's opponents for that matter, had a similar combination of size and overall ability as Usyk ? Who in case you have forgotten, has proven himself as the greatest Cruiserweight of all time. 40 year old versions of Holyfield and a blown up McCallum who started his career at 154 ? The all time greats Samuel Peters and John Ruiz ?

Toney was a great fighter in his prime, he beat some wonderful names, messed it up pretty bad at times due to his lack of discipline, but he proved himself as a great. But come on, he is not beating Usyk. The guy beat on big, dumb, slow and unskilled fighters who lacked ring savvy in higher weights, or shells of former greats, using his great chin, tactical superiority and counter punching. How is he going to beat a guy who varies his rhythm, constantly throws punches and moves around, and as a result literally nullifies his counter-punching, his most valuable tool against bigger guys ?

 

Toney was a high-school QB at 200 lbs. He let his management talk him into fighting at 160 although it was nearly impossible for him to make that weight. Point being, he was naturally a big dude. Not tall but wide. I think Lt. Heavy was probably where he belonged. His bad fights were because he'd had to suck so much weight. As far as Toney not being busy enough, he had records for most punches landed in a title fight. He threw a lot, and anyone who tried to mix it up was committing suicide. Most important, Toney was the last fighter who understood the intricacies from the golden age of boxing; Usyk just doesn't have the technical ability to match. Toney was also so relaxed in the ring that he never wore down. He was 35 when he dismantled the 29 year-old Jirov. I think prime Toney would have KO'd Usyk in the later rounds.

 

Christ, Usyk would beat him from arsole to breakfast. Loakeim is all over it.

 

Usyk ,his work rate would be too much for Toney.

 

Usky way to busy, too well conditioned, ... clean decision ...

 

Usyk won't sit still for Toney. Usyk decision