Agree. I just rewatched and rescored the fight. This was a shoutout. People somehow choose to completely ignore Usyk work to the body, and all of Usyk left hand, which is a power shot to Fury body, yet giving rounds for Fury body work, just how ?
He won exactly that many in the first fight as well. Let the corrupt judges out of the picture, rewatch the fight, and this is what happen. Also mute the biased commentators.
All three of Fury's rounds were because of that one adjustment - the right uppercut on the body. Usyk was thrown off but had solved that puzzle by the seventh. Who do we think has a deeper bag of adjustments to make in the rematch? It's possible Fury gets shut out altogether next time (until whenever it ends).
I don’t see the issue with rematches. It lets us see how both fighters adapt in a second fight. and the fight we saw Saturday was a heavyweight classic, I’d be happy to see a second
I'm one of the people who had the score extremely lopsided for Usyk (117-110), he has Fury figured out now and I think if he presses he could actually stop him. Honestly he could've stopped him this past Saturday had he really pressed.............
I don’t think it will happen because I doubt Fury wants it deep down but if it does I fancy Usyk to knock him out.
That ain't lopsided; it's spot-on! Fury won the 4th-6th. If you were to bend over backwards to find him a fourth round, it'd be the 7th - but that honestly was an Usyk round too.
I haven't heard the American (that is, DAZN) commentary, but boy, British coverage on Sky was ... something else. They would've had you believe it hung in the balance when they read the judges' scorecards and that Usyk could've lucked out a draw IF they awarded him round twelve. I think people having hard times letting go the idea it was close were definitely swayed by being conditioned to favor Fury's work and ignore large swaths of Usyk's.
Something else, or was it you who saw "something else" than the rest of us? Well it was. The American telecast didn't quite go that far. We all know Mannix has had his share of head scratching cards, but in this one he seemed to have it pretty close to reality. It seems that you missed how close the fight was, perhaps you had a desire to score every close round to Usyk out of fandom and didn't give Fury a fair shake. Of course you have every right to your super wide scorecard, and there's nothing wrong with being in the minority and having a unique card, but the fact is that the vast majority of fans saw the fight much closer than you did, so perhaps some introspection on how you arrived at your score would be helpful to understand why not just the British telecast, but also the American telecast saw the match for what it was, a close and dramatic encounter, not the ho-hum easy to score that you seem to be clinging to. And don't take this the wrong way, I'm merely trying to shine a light on what happened so you have a better understanding of what happened. And feel free to help me understand what you saw better, no one's view of a match is inherently superior to another, and I've certainly had my share of unique cards myself that put in the small minority. I want you to know that I'm happy for you that Usyk won, and you should be basking in the glory of this win, but you're too seasoned of a boxing scorer to be shocked that most fans and pundits alike who watched it saw a very close and competitive match.
Usyk. But it will be interesting to see how it goes without Fury's nose breaking. That seemed to change the fight. I was worried for Usyk in those two middle rounds that Fury dominated.
I hope that Usyk retires and there’s no rematch, Usyk was the clear victor in this fight. But I think the lack of clinching by fury was telling. In every fight he has ever had that was remotely competitive he has used the clinch as a means of tiring his opponent and to catch a breather, but it was noticeable that he was actually avoiding the clinch. I’m sure that was due to the cut he suffered in training, he was worried about the potential of it being opened. I think that’s the only reason he didn’t stink the place out with his shithousery and roughhousing. I think that benefited the spectacle and forced him to box when he would normally have disrupted the flow. I mean show me another fury fight with less clinches and I will shut up, I think it’s a completely different fight in the rematch, I think if fury had more confidence to clinch and tie usyk up in the fight then the clearly corrupt judges would have found a way to give it to fury. Avoid the rematch at all costs would be my advice for usyk.
Well, if he makes the fight that soon, Fury is in danger of getting properly stopped this time. If his team was actually intelligent and/or not completely corrupt, they would rest Fury's brain up for a year before rematching, giving him the best chance of recovering some punch resistance. The 'rust' won't hurt him as much as the brain bruising. He should just invest in the rematch as his final shot. He's just come off two concussive fights in 6months, October is too soon to repair that properly. If he's going to do it his best chance is to come for a shootout, I think, because with his current trainer and lack of punch resistance, he probably can't box 12 and outfight Usyk. Likely loses this way too though. I think Fury somehow knows Sugar and his 'Kronk' garbage hasn't been working, which is why he's trying to revert to his old boxing, he did this with the MMA fighter too when his plan A failed and here again he wanted to box. But now he's caught in the middle because he'd be better off with Davison of someone like that to give him a more disciplined defence and fight plan. But he's stuck with this guy who keeps promising a highlight KO every fight and pretending he's given Fury a nuclear RH, which simply isn't the case. If I was his manager, I'd recommend Fury take a year off from fights and full spars, get a new trainer, get back to his more natural boxing style and have one final shot at Usyk fighting like that.
Rematch lines have opened at: Oleksandr Oleksandrovych Usyk -200 Tyson Luke Fury +160 Heading into the first match, Fury was a -118 fave and Usyk a +100 underdog.
