Why did Joshua never throw this right hand bomb against Usyk

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  1. Mister Pugilist

    Mister Pugilist Active Member Full Member

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    rewatching the Joshua-Ngannou fight


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    he never really threw that type of punch against Usyk
     
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  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He did, I recall one huge right hand he landed in the rematch, but Usyk just took it. I was honestly a little surprised when that happened and that's when I realised Joshua wasn't going to win the rematch, no matter what he did.

    Also lets be honest Ngannou isn't Usyk. If Joshua loaded up like that, he'd never land and eat a huge counter that would probably put him on his ass.
     
  3. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Precisely. Joshua could never load up like this against Usyk.
     
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  4. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Question. How many Straight Right hand Fury manages to land on Usyk ? I didn't remember a single Right hand on Usyk head, not a single one.
    Here lies your answer as well.

    Comparing Usyk and Ngannou is a travesty at all.
    The moment AJ fully load/charge his right hand, Usyk was gone 2 seconds before.
     
  5. darkostazic1

    darkostazic1 New Member banned Full Member

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    He did, dozens of times, but that shows how average he is in punching power
     
  6. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He did, catching Usyk with a MONSTER right hand in round 10 countering when Usyk had just unloaded for like 20 seconds. Usyk took it really well and just came on again.

    Must have been spirit-crushing for AJ at that point!
     
  7. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I think Fury landed a straight right hand lead in round 12.
     
  8. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah just rewatched the fight and goes back on this moment. It was partially block by Usyk guard. So still not a single clean Right Hand to Usyk through the entire fight, which is just insane. In the 12 he landed a Right Swing Hook, but it was mostly an arm punch, as that punch comes way too far from his body to put a real power into it.
    He landed a couple of, but either was arm punches, or was mostly blocked.
    But a clean good Right Hand, nope. AJ landed a couple counters, but nothing more.

    So Fury best shots were the 2 uppercuts in the 6th.
    I think a lot of people were fooled by the heavily biased commentators and mainly by Barry Jones, who was incredibly biased towards Fury, to be fair totally delusional ignoring all of the Usyk work, and screaming on every punch thrown by Fury, even though when they are blocked, he screamed a good work for Fury.
    Usyk outlanding him the entire round, Fury land 1 punch, and Barry screams, oh good work from Fury. Absolutely disgusting biased commentatory by Barry.
    He was all Fury before the fight, and say how Fury would easily win, and he just couldn't grasp what's happen.

    It would have been so much better if we can fully mute the commentators and still has audio of the fight. I have no problem ignoring their bias, and not being influenced by what they are saying, but a lot of people getting fooled by them, and not see what actually land or not.

    And got to be real here, MMA commentators are so much better, and they are almost never biased, no matter if a big name fight no name, they are saying it the way it is.
     
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  9. elrond_buggard

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    I remember that. Properly jolted his head back, but Usyk just smiled. Mad man.
     
  10. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Max Kellerman is American but even his commentary was atrocious. I had 4 rounds for Fury but i do agree that the commentary is horrendous.
     
  11. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Almost all of the American was backing Fury, cause he is the bigger name, and they are clueless. And cause he beats Wilder, and they start overrating Fury and claiming he is the GOAT after he beats him.

    The narrative was that Wilder was the most feared HW in the history, and only Fury dared to face him. :D

    Can you imagine?
    I was watching a clip yesterday with American Media where they all saying how Fury is the GOAT, and even Sylvester Stallone claims he is Boxing historian, and he thinks Fury is the GOAT and no one close to him. Can you f**** imagine how deluded this guys are?

    They have no real boxing knowledge.

    As far as the scoring goals, if we remove any bias, and score based on the judging criterias. Fury won at best 3 to 4 rounds. Round 5 and 6 was his only clear rounds.
    And Usyk controlled the fight, and outlanding him in the rest of the rounds, so in my book you can at best give Fury Round 4, and that's it.

    I had it 9-3. 8-4 is somehow fine as well, anything else is being delusional.

    Will try to find the video where they were praising Fury, so we can have a good laugh at it.
     
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  12. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, here it is:
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  14. Usyk is the best

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    He tried to throw it actually many times in both fights, and even landed a couple.

    There is a huge difference between elite skilled p4p boxer in Usyk and big athletic MMA fighter with rudimentary defensive skills.

    Usyk also has better punch resistance than Ngannou who was dropped everytime AJ connected on him.
     
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  15. Vegan Beast

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    1) For the same reason Fury didn't just unload on him, because Usyk is a good counter puncher and he has more power than you think.

    2) Because Usyk is difficult to catch and it's an expense of energy.