Fury = big, stiff robot, can't box?

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  1. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nothing about Fury is stiff or robotic. Fury is actually probably the most fluidly moving extremely big man in history................yeah he lost to a superior Usyk and yea he's acted like a goofy and buffoon but let's not call things what they aren't. There is no other fighter in this era of the HW division that moves as fluidly as Fury. He really shouldn't even be able to move as well as he does, even being what looks like a fat, uncouth slob. Even Usyk for a period was having difficulty landing cleanly on him.

    Ion like when people are intellectually dishonest.
     
  2. uppakut

    uppakut Active Member Full Member

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    Funny that, because as fluid as fury is he was chicken dancing all over the ring in the 9th ala Miller Vs dubois. His fluidity never helped him there. How you doing anyway it's been almost a week now, feeling any better?
     
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  3. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bro look how much faster and how much more mobile Usyk was against AJ 1.
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    Can you imagine what that version of Usyk would have done to Fury, had he not ducked the fight for good 2 years to age Usyk out ?
    He would have killed him in there.
     
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  4. Gog97675

    Gog97675 Member banned Full Member

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    Well Usyk landing less than 30 percent of his punches pretty shows that he can't box either. Tyson Fury also landed 17 percent of his punches against the slow no defense having Francesco Pianeta so clearly Fury can't box. Fury runs and throws slapping arm punches. Usyk runs and throws slapping arm punches. The fact that Usyk a light punching cruiserweight who couldn't land 30 percent of his punches against Joshua but landed 40 percent of his punches against Fury tells you how bad Fury is at defense, skill and pretty much everything else as a boxer.
     
  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bro don't make me laugh. Fury had better movement, but he ain't faster with that feets than AJ now. Not even close. We see that in the Ngannou fight, and in the Wallin. AJ literally annihilated them both.

    AJ is not just a huge explosive puncher, he has very high IQ in the ring, knows how to open his opponents, and has all the tools in the business. Every single weapon you name it, he have it. Right hook, left hook, uppercut, Straight Hand, Jab.
    AJ is miles ahead of Fury's jab, it's not even funny compare them.
    AJ also has high Guard, and way tighter defense.
    And as i said it million times ago, he also had a better top gas tank.
    Fury managed his gas tank better, no doubt about that, but AJ also learned to do so. Also Fury is throwing so much patty punches, that waste almost no energy, and still tired out faster, when all AJ is throwing is power punches, even his Jab is fully explosive power punch nowadays.

    Unlike your hero, AJ had improved with almost every fight he take. And since Usyk he learned his lesson and improved tremendously.

    And if your Hero has any dignity he would have fought AJ already and be done with it. But you Fury fanboys knows how this will end, and are praying Fury to never face AJ, as this fight has just 1 outcome, Fury on his back, on a stretcher.
     
  6. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are absolutely clueless if you think that Usyk throws arm punches. He has never done that. Better learn some stuff, before talking nonsenses.
    Fury do throws arm punches, but he is doing it to mask when he throws the power ones. He ain't the biggest puncher in the world, but a 260+lbs guy who is boxing his whole life, without a shadow of a doubt hit very hard.
     
  7. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's reductionist and doesn't show the full story - Usyk threw a hell of a lot more against Joshua - 700 vs 400 in comparison. Some of that was likely being 2 years older - some of it was probably gameplan related to Fury/Josh differences - but some of it was undoubtably due to Fury himself as well. Usyk threw a lot less - he was more efficient against Fury, but his normal game is not high percentage, but high workrate and when you throw that much your connect percent inevitably goes down.
     
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  8. miniq

    miniq Oleksandr Usyk Undisputed HW Champion Full Member

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    It's very evident there are a few select people who are desperate to try and elevate AJ and denigrate Fury after this fight but it's not happening because it's clear as day who is the better man. Even if AJ was capable of knocking fury out in 1 round and was a horrible style matchup which he's not it doesn't change the facts of who is the more achieved and naturally more talented. Usyk & Fury are rare talents. The way Usyk has adapted to heavyweight is commendable. It could have been possible that he physically just wasn't able to compete but he can, helps that he was always a very big cruiserweight.
     
  9. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He is clueless bro. He doesn't even understand that a lot of this so call punches are thrown as either to draw a reaction from your opponent or as a feints.
    Also Compubox is highly, and i mean highly inaccurate.

    But yeah it's clear that Usyk is on huge decline. He ain't the fighter he was, even compare to AJ 1 and 2, when he was 34/35.

    And Usyk was always going to miss and do more against AJ in terms of punches, as AJ had high guard, and you need something to open it up, when against Fury, his body is up for the taking.

    Which want me to see AJ - Fury so badly. Since Usyk 2, AJ started to use that Right hand to the body in vicious way. Especially with Ben Davison.
    Otto Wallin couldn't walk after just 5 rounds cause of that Right to the body.

    The dream fight for me is AJ - Fury next.
     
  10. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Fury is stiff? LOL. You are blind.
     
  11. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's incredible how many AJ fans are doing their best to discredit Usyks performance.
     
  12. pugilista

    pugilista Member Full Member

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    The joke is clearly lost on you.
     
  13. pugilista

    pugilista Member Full Member

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    Who do you mean?
     
  14. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If I tried explaining it, no matter how objectively, I'll just be called a Fury fanboy despite wanting Usyk to win. Is there much point?
     
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  15. Gog97675

    Gog97675 Member banned Full Member

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    Joshua isn't a defensive fighter. Landing less than 30 percent of your punches against any heavyweight is pretty pathetic.