You're completely out of your mind. Is this really even about Uysk at this point? I'm starting to wonder how much of this is due to your obvious AJ love and Fury hate. Fanboys are really weird. I like boxing, sure I root for a guy but that's it. I want the best boxers fighting the best boxers as regularly as possible and with just outcomes. That's it. I never thought the criticism of Fury would become so unhinged that I had to somewhat defend him but here we are. We've got a supposed boxing fan saying he hopes the champ retires rather than give fans the fights we'd like to see. That's mental.
Not buying it! This is what Fury really is, and everyone unbiased knows it. Watch it carefully. This content is protected Tell me how he is wrong?
I think Fury losing might well be good for boxing. Him losing his 0 might make him easier to negotiate with and in more fights we want to see him in. I don't see how a Uysk retirement or swerving a rematch is good for boxing though. There simply isn't a better fight to be had at heavyweight right now.
Yes there is. Fury - AJ. Enough is enough with this British fighters having rematches over rematches. And this ain't just Fury. All of them. Fury, Joshua, Whyte, Joyce, Zhang(Warren guy), etc, etc. They get favoritsm over the scorecards big time, over the referees, and you had to rematches them, until you eventually lose. Usyk is 38 years old, already completed Boxing, we already seen him beat and destroy Fury, and AJ, we don't need to see that again. We see it. Enough of the rematches the HW division. Fury - AJ is the fight to make. And before saying i'm bias, fine, but maybe go dig some more. I was the first to say that Usyk should never rematch AJ, as this wasn't close fight at all. It's the same now. Competitive yes, close not in a million of years. And Fury is a s***** that ducked and wasted 2 years of Usyk career, he is the last guy that deserve good treatment. Karma needs to be delivered. Anyway you ain't changing my view, and I ain't change yours. Thanks though that you was respectful through the discussion.
He has an impressive resume amateurs and pros but a big stretch to declare him the greatest of all time.Perfect example of hyperbole. Best heavyweight of his generation true but these guys not as good as previous generations that’s for sure. Mind you, you can only beat what is put before you.
If there was ever ANY doubt. It was a KO in the 9th. Simple as. The ref saved Fury. The KO is the difference
To be fair ATG is for people to talk about, and it's very very subjective, so i don't mind people don't think Usyk is an all time great. For me he is, and i don't someone to validate my opinion. Winning everything in Boxing, amateur, professional is enough for me. Everything else is just a bonus.
Serge is knowledgeable to a degree but Usyk is not the GOAT. He is 2nd greatest Cruiserweight in history after the real deal.
You read all of it, and that was the conclusion? As I said, people were claiming there will be river of tears before the fight, what happen at the end? The tears are from other side, isn't it ? Fury ain't got a legit chance of beating Usyk, other than Usyk decline even more in the next couple of months, as he will be 38, and a blatant referee and judges(even though he had them in the first fight). It's time for British fans and their fighter to actually act like a man, and not have rematches over rematches. You don't need to beat someone Twice 12-0, to be better than him. Once is enough, and Usyk proved that. Fury already started to backtrack the October date. Perfect time for Usyk to tell them to f*** up and retire. At CW there is no doubt who the GOAT is, and that is Usyk. Holyfield is not even close to Usyk at CW. Usyk has done everything in his opponents backyard + he fought way better competition, and everyone of them was in their prime. Also he had to Unify 4 belts, unlike 3 back at Holifield time. Usyk is the GOAT at CW and Goat Boxer.
Yes, I genuinely believe that you're not as confident as you're letting on otherwise you'd be happy enough for Uysk to score another huge payday for easy work and keep on embarrassing the Fury fans who said Uysk had no chance against him. I've heard the reasons you've given but put simply I don't believe you as they don't stand up to scrutiny IMO. FWIW I already had Uysk as the CW GOAT. H2H I would love to have seen Haye vs Uysk at CW just for a different styles clash rather that watch Evan Fields try to headbutt and clinch his way to victory.
Eh, you can believe in Santa Klaus, Tooth fairy too, doesn't mean they are real. Huge pay day for Usyk is not an interest of me, as he already earned more enough for 10 lives, and also i gain nothing from it anyway. So whether he will make 100 million or 1 million is completely irrelevant. Usyk already embarrassed Fury, he gains nothing from do it in again. He also won't have the same motivation and hunger. As far as losing, he can lose to any opponent really. This is HW boxing and 1 punch is enough. So Fury is irrelevant as well. But he doesn't deserve the rematch anyway + the idea that British fighters has to get rematches over rematches until they beat you is disgrace to Boxing and Martial Arts as a whole. Rematches should be earned in the ring/cage/etc, or with your action. Fury hasn't done anything. As far as whether you believe me or not i couldn't care less about it. And just for your sake to know it i was highly against Usyk - AJ 2 rematch as well. So i guess was scared of that outcome as well lol. But at least AJ didn't waste Usyk 2 years of his last years as PRO Boxer, to age him out, and to wait for the perfect moment for him to face Usyk, and wasn't a complete a***** during the whole period of the fight. Also is what people don't understand or they very much understand but are acting like they don't, because they don't want to see that fight, as they are Fury fans, obviously. Usyk - Fury 2 means no AJ - Fury ever. If you don't get that, then well i can't help you. Whether it's a win or lose for Fury in that matter. I absolutely don't believe for a single second that Fury will fight AJ. The only chance is if Usyk says enough. And Fury just doesn't have any other option but to fight AJ.
