Fury = big, stiff robot, can't box?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by pugilista, May 21, 2024.



  1. Gog97675

    Gog97675 Member banned Full Member

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    Let's go further. Usyk threw 407 punches and landed 170 against Fury. Old 40 plus year old Foreman threw 400 and landed 225 punchss against 23 year old Tommy Morrison. Old 46 year old Foreman threw 543 punches against the 26 year old Axel Schulz and landed 249. Against both of these guys Foreman was able to land way over 50 percent of his punches but Usyk lands less tha 30 percent of his punches against Joshua and you make excuses for him?

    Usyk only landed 24.5 percent of his punches against Daniel Dubois. Even against Gassiev at Cruiserweight Usyk was landing 26 percent of his punches. Then you go but that is his style to throw volumes of punches. So basically you are saying Usyk style is to miss with most of his punches?

    Lol nobody style is to miss with their punches. Usyk misses because he isn't very skill and for the most part his punches are arm punches and please don't hurt me slapping punches. That is why he misses so much. The same as Fury.
     
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  2. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    30% accuracy pathetic?
    what do you think that is the normal accuracy in a normal fight?
     
  3. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I get that you are old school Boxing lover and trying to s**** on all of the new fighters, but please.
    You have no clue what you are talking about.

    A lot of the so call throw punches are to get a reaction out of your opponent, to bite him, or even just faints, or to pressure or keep your opponent at distance.
    Just because Compubox is scoring them as thrown punches, doesn't mean much.
    AJ has High Guard, obviously it's going to be hard to land on him, and you need to go around that High Guard.

    25-30% in a Highest Level of Boxing is quite high a % of landing punches. They are not static target.
     
  4. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. Full Member

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    Without his size and his recoveries from knockdowns it would be nothing.
     
  5. pugilista

    pugilista Member Full Member

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    No, I'm genuinely interested, mate.
     
  6. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ok.

    In my opinion, Fury gave Usyk a hard fight. By proclaiming "he was never any good" it downplays the amazing performance Usyk gave. Fury came in strong and with a style that would give most heavyweights (AJ included) a bloody hard time.

    Usyks ability to absorb the punishment, adapt and get the second wind to turn it all around was simply the best thing I've seen since Fury got off the canvas in the first Wilder fight.
     
  7. pugilista

    pugilista Member Full Member

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    I kind of agree in the sense that Fury gave a much better account of himself than I thought he would at his age, condition, and other factors.

    But I disagree that it was a close fight. Having rewatched the fight around 5-6 times since fight night, I don't think it was close at all. I scored it 8-4 to Usyk initially, but I watched all rounds in slow motion since then. Rounds 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9, 10, and 11 were all Usyk. A lot of people gave Fury the 7th or think it's a swing round, but if you watch it in slow motion, you can see that it is Usyk who lands the clean and significant punches. The same goes for round 4, where the power punches landed were equal, but Usyk still outlanded Fury in total punches. You could say round 12 was a draw. Heck, you can give it to Fury even. That still leaves just 3 rounds for him—5, 6, and 12, and even this is generous with 12 given to him. The more I rewatch it, the clearer it seems that it wasn't really a close fight. But Fury's showboating made a lot of people think he did better than he actually did.
     
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  8. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fair enough. Personally I scored it a lot closer.
     
  9. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly. It's shows that people are just biased and emotional in their scoring, and that have a problem scoring when listen to commentators, who are almost always biased to the bigger name in a X given fight.
    Showboating has no business in any fight, whether it's a Boxing, MMA, etc, and Fury should have been warned, especially for holding on to the ropes, which is completely illegal.
    But we already knew that the ref is going to be paid actor.

    The reality for Fury was that he was nervous as hell, and he tried to hide it with the showboating and to fool some people, which just shows you how many people are easily fooled.
     
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